Crossdressing...Just how does a woman participate?

[Narrow Is The Way]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

For thousands and thousands of years men and women both wore robes. In our current (western) culture men and women both wear pants.


(In other parts of the world, men still wear robes or skirt-like garments:

"Outside of Western cultures, male clothing includes skirts and skirt-like garments.[3] One common form is a single sheet of fabric folded and wrapped around the waist, such as the dhoti or lungi in India, and sarong in South and Southeast Asia. There are different varieties and names of sarong depending on whether the ends are sewn together or simply tied.

Some long robes also resemble a skirt or dress, including the Middle Eastern and North African caftan and djellaba.

Other similar garments worn by men around the world include the Greek and Balkan fustanella (a short flared cotton skirt), the Pacific lava-lava (similar to a sarong), some forms of Japanese hakama and the Bhutanese gho.

Skirts that are called qun(裙) or chang(裳) in Chinese were also worn by ancient Chinese men.")


If it was okay for thousands of years (and when the Bible was written) for men and women to wear the same basic garment, why is it suddenly a sin now? We really need to bear in mind that when the Bible was written men and women both wore the same type of garment! We can't twist the Bible and try to make it say something it's not saying just to back up our traditions. Or at least we shouldn't.

Men and women used to both wear robes, now men and women both wear pants - in our culture. Not seeing the difference.

Somebody has lied to you telling you there was no difference in the robes that were wore.
The male robes had breaches.

Here is some more info. from Rabbi Shraga Simmons


MEN'S CLOTHING AND WOMEN'S CLOTHING

Even though in the old days everyone wore robes, the robes made for men were different than the robes made for women. Therefore, if a man were to wear a woman's robes (or vice versa) they would be in violation of the Torah commandment that states: "Male garb shall not be on a woman, and a man shall not wear a feminine garment, for anyone who does so is an abomination of the Almighty." (Deuteronomy 22:5)

The Book of Mitzvah Education, Sefer HaChinuch, explains that the purpose of this mitzvah is to help maintain a separation between the sexes. If, however, men and women were to wear each other's clothing, they would eventually become intermingled with each other constantly until they would be so mixed together they would fall into licentiousness. (The Book of Mitzvah Education, Sefer HaChinuch #542)

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

Somebody has lied to you telling you there was no difference in the robes that were wore.
The male robes had breaches.

Here is some more info. from Rabbi Shraga Simmons


MEN'S CLOTHING AND WOMEN'S CLOTHING

Even though in the old days everyone wore robes, the robes made for men were different than the robes made for women. Therefore, if a man were to wear a woman's robes (or vice versa) they would be in violation of the Torah commandment that states: "Male garb shall not be on a woman, and a man shall not wear a feminine garment, for anyone who does so is an abomination of the Almighty." (Deuteronomy 22:5)

The Book of Mitzvah Education, Sefer HaChinuch, explains that the purpose of this mitzvah is to help maintain a separation between the sexes. If, however, men and women were to wear each other's clothing, they would eventually become intermingled with each other constantly until they would be so mixed together they would fall into licentiousness. (The Book of Mitzvah Education, Sefer HaChinuch #542)

There were small differences, just like there are differences in men and women's pants.

The male robes had breeches?

In the year 2011, we still have the MEN'S section and the WOMEN'S section in the department stores. That's because we STILL have a distinction in clothing.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

Somebody has lied to you telling you there was no difference in the robes that were wore.
The male robes had breaches.

Here is some more info. from Rabbi Shraga Simmons


MEN'S CLOTHING AND WOMEN'S CLOTHING

Even though in the old days everyone wore robes, the robes made for men were different than the robes made for women. Therefore, if a man were to wear a woman's robes (or vice versa) they would be in violation of the Torah commandment that states: "Male garb shall not be on a woman, and a man shall not wear a feminine garment, for anyone who does so is an abomination of the Almighty." (Deuteronomy 22:5)

The Book of Mitzvah Education, Sefer HaChinuch, explains that the purpose of this mitzvah is to help maintain a separation between the sexes. If, however, men and women were to wear each other's clothing, they would eventually become intermingled with each other constantly until they would be so mixed together they would fall into licentiousness. (The Book of Mitzvah Education, Sefer HaChinuch #542)

First of all robes don't have breeches. People wear breeches.

Second the fact you are missing is both wore ROBES as outer garments. Yes there may have been distinctions but that makes their point, not yours

Their point is pants are outer garments and there are distinctions between men's pants and women's pants

Lastly only priests wore breeches.

ISBE
brich´iz, brēch´iz: A garment, extending from the waist to or just below the knee or to the ankle, and covering each leg separately. Breeches are not listed among the garments of an ordinary wardrobe, but the priests in later times (Exo_20:26) wore a garment resembling modern trousers. These priestly linen breeches, מכנסי בד, mikhneṣē bhadh, were worn along with the linen coat, the linen girdle and the linen turban by Aaron on the Day of Atonement, when he entered the "holy place." (The word מכנסי, mikhneṣē is derived from a root, כנס, kānaṣ = גנז, gānaz, "to cover up," "hide.") Ordinary priests also wore them on sacrificial occasions (Exo_28:42; Exo_39:28; Lev_6:10; Eze_44:18).