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Old 08-29-2011, 10:46 AM
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I don't understand how "Christians" can stand for a practice that was born out of rebellion in the 1920's.
May you stand with Cora.

In horse back riding, there is a even a way designed to compensate for a woman rider. It's called SIDESADDLE. It was used for 1000's of years. I think it's funny that we are still having this discussion based on a rebellion and women's lib of the 1920's

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I don't understand how "Christians" can stand for a practice that was born out of rebellion in the 1920's.

My you stand with Cora.

In horse back riding, there is a even a way designed to compensate for a women rider. It's called SIDESADDLE. It was used for 1000's of years. I think it's funny that we are still having this discussion based on a rebellion and women's lib of the 1920's
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I don't understand how "Christians" can stand for a practice that was born out of rebellion in the 1920's.
May you stand with Cora.

In horse back riding, there is a even a way designed to compensate for a woman rider. It's called SIDESADDLE. It was used for 1000's of years. I think it's funny that we are still having this discussion based on a rebellion and women's lib of the 1920's
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I don't understand how "Christians" can stand for a practice that was born out of rebellion in the 1920's.
May you stand with Cora.

In horse back riding, there is a even a way designed to compensate for a woman rider. It's called SIDESADDLE. It was used for 1000's of years. I think it's funny that we are still having this discussion based on a rebellion and women's lib of the 1920's
I guarantee you no Christians dress the same as pre 1920's society. Why do you focus on dresses and pants only? Most men wore suits and hats EVERYWHERE back then.
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Old 08-29-2011, 11:12 AM
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I guarantee you no Christians dress the same as pre 1920's society. Why do you focus on dresses and pants only? Most men wore suits and hats EVERYWHERE back then.
Hmm, putting words into my mouth.
1) The issue was about women cross dressing, not about men.
2) No, ALL of (western) Society dressed according to that manner. Western Society was based on Judeo-Christian values
3) Yes, when you were not working in the field, you usually were dressed in you best attire to "go to town" in. Just like you would clean up to go to a nice restaurant today.
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I don't understand how "Christians" can stand for a practice that was born out of rebellion in the 1920's.
May you stand with Cora.
Prove this!

Women started wearing pants when men went off to war and the woman had to go to work outside the home

Fashions have always changed.

Men wore pants because they were the ones fighting and working in the fields.

Men and women have worn pants in history, before the modern era. So, tell us, when man first put on a pair of pants and tossed his skirts or robes, was he being rebellious too?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trousers
Trousers first enter recorded history in the 6th century BCE, with the appearance of horse-riding Iranian peoples in Greek ethnography. At this time, not only the Persians, but also allied Central Asian peoples such as the Bactrians, Armenians, and the Tigraxauda Scythians are known to have worn them.[4][5] Trousers are believed to have been worn by both sexes among these early users

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In horse back riding, there is a even a way designed to compensate for a woman rider. It's called SIDESADDLE. It was used for 1000's of years. I think it's funny that we are still having this discussion based on a rebellion and women's lib of the 1920's
Aside from the sidesaddle, you don't have a clue what you are talkikng about. You know what kind of women rode horses all those years? The ones that could afford them. The aristocrats. Those women did not work. They were always dressed to the 9s did not want to ruin their clothing. Dresses for them were the fashions of the day

In Europe, the sidesaddle developed in part because cultural norms for the upper social classes dictated that it was unbecoming for a woman of apparent wealth or high social status to straddle a horse while riding. Further, since long skirts were the required fashion, riding astride in such attire was often impractical and awkward, and it could be "immodest." However, women of status did ride horses and needed to be able to control their own animals, so there was a need for a saddle designed to allow both control of the horse and modesty for the rider

However, in spite of cultural pressures, not all women of the nobility adopted the sidesaddle at all times. Women such as Diane de Poitiers (mistress to Henry II of France) and Marie Antoinette were known to ride astride. Catherine the Great of Russia went so far as to commission a portrait showing her riding astride wearing a male officer's uniform
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidesaddle
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Prove this!

Women started wearing pants when men went off to war and the woman had to go to work outside the home

Fashions have always changed.

Men wore pants because they were the ones fighting and working in the fields.

Men and women have worn pants in history, before the modern era. So, tell us, when man first put on a pair of pants and tossed his skirts or robes, was he being rebellious too?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trousers
Trousers first enter recorded history in the 6th century BCE, with the appearance of horse-riding Iranian peoples in Greek ethnography. At this time, not only the Persians, but also allied Central Asian peoples such as the Bactrians, Armenians, and the Tigraxauda Scythians are known to have worn them.[4][5] Trousers are believed to have been worn by both sexes among these early users


Aside from the sidesaddle, you don't have a clue what you are talkikng about. You know what kind of women rode horses all those years? The ones that could afford them. The aristocrats. Those women did not work. They were always dressed to the 9s did not want to ruin their clothing. Dresses for them were the fashions of the day

In Europe, the sidesaddle developed in part because cultural norms for the upper social classes dictated that it was unbecoming for a woman of apparent wealth or high social status to straddle a horse while riding. Further, since long skirts were the required fashion, riding astride in such attire was often impractical and awkward, and it could be "immodest." However, women of status did ride horses and needed to be able to control their own animals, so there was a need for a saddle designed to allow both control of the horse and modesty for the rider

However, in spite of cultural pressures, not all women of the nobility adopted the sidesaddle at all times. Women such as Diane de Poitiers (mistress to Henry II of France) and Marie Antoinette were known to ride astride. Catherine the Great of Russia went so far as to commission a portrait showing her riding astride wearing a male officer's uniform
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidesaddle
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