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Old 08-30-2011, 09:13 PM
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Re: Crossdressing...Just how does a woman particip

PO, I meant that it was moot because scripture was written in a time when it would have been impossible to apply in the way it is today. Since at the time it was written men and women wore fairly unisex styles, then when women began wearing pants seems moot. At least, to the end of trying to determine whether a woman is putting on a man's garment when she puts on pants.

If we're trying to figure out what constitutes cross dressing, and Deut. 22:5 is at the root of this conversation since it's the only scripture of which I'm aware that addresses it, then we must consider the context and figure out how Hebrew women in ancient times could have applied this commandment. How would they have avoided cross dressing if everyone wore skirts or robes?

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"Stricter Modern Orthodox practice is for sleeves to reach the elbows and shirts to cover the collarbone, skirts to cover the knees, and to eschew pants in the presence of men...."--http://www.davening.net/tznius.html

The above quote indicates that in the orthodox Jewish community, pants are limited for women because of modesty; not gender distinction. It also implies that pants are allowed for practical purposes unless men are present.
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Old 08-31-2011, 03:59 AM
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Re: Crossdressing...Just how does a woman particip

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PO, I meant that it was moot because scripture was written in a time when it would have been impossible to apply in the way it is today. Since at the time it was written men and women wore fairly unisex styles, then when women began wearing pants seems moot. At least, to the end of trying to determine whether a woman is putting on a man's garment when she puts on pants.

If we're trying to figure out what constitutes cross dressing, and Deut. 22:5 is at the root of this conversation since it's the only scripture of which I'm aware that addresses it, then we must consider the context and figure out how Hebrew women in ancient times could have applied this commandment. How would they have avoided cross dressing if everyone wore skirts or robes?

Also:

"Stricter Modern Orthodox practice is for sleeves to reach the elbows and shirts to cover the collarbone, skirts to cover the knees, and to eschew pants in the presence of men...."--http://www.davening.net/tznius.html

The above quote indicates that in the orthodox Jewish community, pants are limited for women because of modesty; not gender distinction. It also implies that pants are allowed for practical purposes unless men are present.
I wasn't trying to figure out cross dressing for the Hebrews. The cross-dressing thread made me wonder that if both wore robes, how did pants evolve and become universally a man's garment, if women wore them too. That's the short of it. Heading out of town today, so I'm being brief.
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