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Old 09-20-2011, 04:26 PM
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Re: Racists

Okay, I guess I'll wade in a bit Just a few thoughts:

1.) Suppose you live in a border city where white people make up 12% of the population. Suppose there is historic tendency of the majority race in your city to prefer to do business with "their kind". Suppose in your lifetime there was a time when you were forbidden from even entering their businesses? Would you think that he potential for some sort of lingering bias in some is unthinkable? Do you think you would feel an obligation to do business with the white owned businesses when possible?

2.) Many black owned businesses are in communities where other people don't feel as comfortable coming. Honestly, in many cases people don't feel as comfortable for good reason. But either way the end result is that they are in communities where others do not or will not come. In those cases, if the black community does not patronize their business, no one will. For example, our church happens to be in such a neighborhood and I know this to be a reality for some of the business owners around.


I'm just throwing these out for your consideration. I am not a proponent of racism anywhere by anyone. I'm just wanting to expand the scope of this conversation.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:08 PM
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Okay, I guess I'll wade in a bit Just a few thoughts:

1.) Suppose you live in a border city where white people make up 12% of the population. Suppose there is historic tendency of the majority race in your city to prefer to do business with "their kind". Suppose in your lifetime there was a time when you were forbidden from even entering their businesses? Would you think that he potential for some sort of lingering bias in some is unthinkable? Do you think you would feel an obligation to do business with the white owned businesses when possible?

2.) Many black owned businesses are in communities where other people don't feel as comfortable coming. Honestly, in many cases people don't feel as comfortable for good reason. But either way the end result is that they are in communities where others do not or will not come. In those cases, if the black community does not patronize their business, no one will. For example, our church happens to be in such a neighborhood and I know this to be a reality for some of the business owners around.


I'm just throwing these out for your consideration. I am not a proponent of racism anywhere by anyone. I'm just wanting to expand the scope of this conversation.
Agreed on all points.

The thing is that we should all be free to shop where we want for the reasons we want. If someone makes these choices because of hatred for whatever the "other" group is then they have problems. But... still they're free to make their choices no matter what their reasoning is.

The same type of thought process is one I employ on a whole other level. I prefer to shop with local companies rather than with big box stores because the local economy is being dwindled away by allowing so many national and multinational chains to come in and slowly syphon the local economy off to another place.

It is prejudiced for me to assume I know anyones reasoning for what they do. I have prejudged them if I make a call on the basis for their actions outside of hearing them actually say what their reasonings are.
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I'll repeat it. If white person insists that they, a white person, prefers to marry "their own kind"...they will be labeled racists
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I'll repeat it. If white person insists that they, a white person, prefers to marry "their own kind"...they will be labeled racists
Indeed they would be labeled as such.

But the question is... are they?
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Going by what JD said, not necessarily
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Going by what JD said, not necessarily
That would be my feeling on it... Labeled.. almost certainly... are they actually?

Who knows. To decide whether they are without their actual statement would be prejudiced.
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