You think Trinitarians accept you?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Quite frankly Narrow, it depends on the meaning poured into the word "persons".

If they mean persons similar to human persons then it's problematic. If it means three personas as in "three simultaneous modes of existence" then we have agreement.

Trins do not teach 3 similtaneous modes of existence. Thats what they oppose. Thats what ONENESS TEACHES. There probably are some who dont understand Trinity who say that. Their Teachers would be very disappointed when they hear it.

We have been told the Ancient Trins taught the "persona" thing but why the hatred for Sabellius? That Exactly what HE TAUGHT.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Trins do not teach 3 similtaneous modes of existence. Thats what they oppose. Thats what ONENESS TEACHES. There probably are some who dont understand Trinity who say that. Their Teachers would be very disappointed when they hear it.

We have been told the Ancient Trins taught the "persona" thing but why the hatred for Sabellius? That Exactly what HE TAUGHT.

I understand that. Just pointing out sometimes I can read a statement of faith with words like triune, trinity or persons and think "personas" to make it work for me.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Trins do not teach 3 similtaneous modes of existence. Thats what they oppose. Thats what ONENESS TEACHES. There probably are some who dont understand Trinity who say that. Their Teachers would be very disappointed when they hear it.

We have been told the Ancient Trins taught the "persona" thing but why the hatred for Sabellius? That Exactly what HE TAUGHT.

I think that ALL of the Trinitarian believers I know believe this way.

They point to the baptism of Jesus as irrefutable Bible evidence for their doctrine-- an instance where all Three are manifested.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I think that ALL of the Trinitarian believers I know believe this way.

They point to the baptism of Jesus as irrefutable Bible evidence for their doctrine-- an instance where all Three are manifested.

Jerm, I think we are just saying it is Oneness that claims modes of existence in lieu of persons terminology. I also believe many Trinitarians are practically in agreement.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I think that ALL of the Trinitarian believers I know believe this way.

They point to the baptism of Jesus as irrefutable Bible evidence for their doctrine-- an instance where all Three are manifested.

Hi Jeremy,

Do this for me if you can. Find the website of any Trinitarian Church or organization. Show me where they say the Trinity is three similtaneous modes of existence. Give me the link.

While I am waiting I could say with all confidence I could find countless Trinitarian sites that say the Trinity is 3 distinct persons and that each one is God.

Also Bro the baptism thing does not hold water because there are NOT 3 co eternal persons at the baptism. Does God need to be baptized in water? Jesus was baptized as a MAN not as a co eternal person of the Godhead.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I think that ALL of the Trinitarian believers I know believe this way.

They point to the baptism of Jesus as irrefutable Bible evidence for their doctrine-- an instance where all Three are manifested.

Three PERSONS not "Three similtaneous MODES OF existence"

Modes is...Modalism

Persons is...Trinitarianism