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11-17-2011, 02:45 PM
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Re: Bernie Gillispie
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Me too Sam. That doesnt mean those things that bend us... happen instantainously.
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I agree, Ferd. There may be an "aha" moment but that could very well be after a period of time.
Traditionally the date for the conversion/salvation of Saul of Tarsus was on January 25, AD 32 on the road outside of Damascus. At that time Jesus appeared to him personally and he called out to him, "Who art thou, Lord?" After the Lord told him who He was, Saul asked, "Lord, what wilt Thou have me to do?" But, when Jesus revealed Himself to him that day, He said, "It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks." We don't know how long Saul had been thinking and questioning and how long his conscience had been pricked. It could go back to when he saw Stephen martyred. It could be while he watched Christians respond to his persecution and arrests. It could go back to a time when he and other Pharisees pursued Jesus like a pack of hounds.
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11-17-2011, 02:46 PM
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Re: Bernie Gillispie
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I agree, Ferd. There may be an "aha" moment but that could very well be after a period of time.
Traditionally the date for the conversion/salvation of Saul of Tarsus was on January 25, AD 32 on the road outside of Damascus. At that time Jesus appeared to him personally and he called out to him, "Who art thou, Lord?" After the Lord told him who He was, Saul asked, "Lord, what wilt Thou have me to do?" But, when Jesus revealed Himself to him that day, He said, "It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks." We don't know how long Saul had been thinking and questioning and how long his conscience had been pricked. It could go back to when he saw Stephen martyred. It could be while he watched Christians respond to his persecution and arrests. It could go back to a time when he and other Pharisees pursued Jesus like a pack of hounds.
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plus didn't he go spend time afterwards in prayer and solitude before he started preaching? like maybe 3 years?
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11-17-2011, 03:01 PM
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Re: Bernie Gillispie
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plus didn't he go spend time afterwards in prayer and solitude before he started preaching? like maybe 3 years?
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In Acts 9:19-25 in seems he began preaching right away in Damascus. Then in verse 26 it speaks of him coming to Jerusalem. This may have been the 15 days he spent with Peter and James spoken of in Galatians 1:18-19. In verse 30 of that same 9th chapter of Acts he seems to drop out of view again and the churches "had rest." The 3 years in Arabia could fit into either of these places. In AD 42 Barnabas was sent by the leaders in Jerusalem to check out the church in Antioch because of the number of Gentiles in it. in Acts 11:25 Barnabus goes to Tarsus to seek for Saul and brings him to Antioch possibly in early AD 43. In the latter part of Acts 11 a prophet named Agabus prophesies of a famine that was coming. There was a poor harvest in AD 45 and a failed harvest in AD 46. It seems that Paul took food to the church at Jerusalem in AD 46 which would have been 14 years after his conversion and this is spoken of in Galatians 2:1-2. The going to Jerusalem "by revelation" may mean in response to the prophecy of Agabus a couple years before. It is recorded in the first few verses of Acts 13 that Paul and others were ministering as prophets and teachers in the Antioch assembly and he left there in March AD 47 (beginning of the sailing season for what we call his first missionary journey.
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11-17-2011, 04:24 PM
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Re: Bernie Gillispie
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In Acts 9:19-25 in seems he began preaching right away in Damascus. Then in verse 26 it speaks of him coming to Jerusalem. This may have been the 15 days he spent with Peter and James spoken of in Galatians 1:18-19. In verse 30 of that same 9th chapter of Acts he seems to drop out of view again and the churches "had rest." The 3 years in Arabia could fit into either of these places. In AD 42 Barnabas was sent by the leaders in Jerusalem to check out the church in Antioch because of the number of Gentiles in it. in Acts 11:25 Barnabus goes to Tarsus to seek for Saul and brings him to Antioch possibly in early AD 43. In the latter part of Acts 11 a prophet named Agabus prophesies of a famine that was coming. There was a poor harvest in AD 45 and a failed harvest in AD 46. It seems that Paul took food to the church at Jerusalem in AD 46 which would have been 14 years after his conversion and this is spoken of in Galatians 2:1-2. The going to Jerusalem "by revelation" may mean in response to the prophecy of Agabus a couple years before. It is recorded in the first few verses of Acts 13 that Paul and others were ministering as prophets and teachers in the Antioch assembly and he left there in March AD 47 (beginning of the sailing season for what we call his first missionary journey.
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thank you Sam
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11-17-2011, 04:43 PM
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Re: Bernie Gillispie
Just another guy who departed from the faith and is more Baptist than anything else.
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11-17-2011, 07:06 PM
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Re: Bernie Gillispie
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Just another guy who departed from the faith and is more Baptist than anything else.
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Many Baptists are in "the faith".
Well, someone has to say it!
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11-17-2011, 09:47 PM
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Re: Bernie Gillispie
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Many Baptists are in "the faith".
Well, someone has to say it!
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I want to repeat it for you!
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Many Baptists are in "the faith".
Well, someone has to say it!
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11-17-2011, 10:28 PM
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Re: Bernie Gillispie
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Many Baptists are in "the faith".
Well, someone has to say it!
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They are in unbelief not in the faith.
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11-18-2011, 09:49 AM
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Re: Bernie Gillispie
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Many Baptists are in "the faith".
Well, someone has to say it!
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Yep, and Steve is not the arbitrator of who is saved and who is not. Thank God!!!
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