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01-14-2012, 08:30 PM
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Re: Where are they today?
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Originally Posted by Falla39
Bro. Jay,
I know very little about British/Israel, except from what little I have heard. That they believe that America is Manasseh and Great Britian is Ephraiam. Not much.
When the two kingdoms split, Judah and Israel, were divided. If all Israel will be saved, it will be Judah and Israel reconcilled. All Israel to me means all of Jacob's children will be saved because of the Cross. The middle wall of partition comes down between any race, gender, servant/master, meet at the Cross. Because of Christ's death, burial and resurrection. IN Christ, when we obey the plan of salvation as given in the 2nd chapter of Acts.
After years of regret of seeing their father, Jacob, grieved and the thought of his losing another son. The brothers confessed their sin, Joseph told them
that although their intent was evil, God meant it for good, to save a nation. The nation of Israel.
2 Cor.5:17
17Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. IN CHRIST, a New Creation begins.
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I have done a bit of reading on it, but I did not understand it at first. The teachings I have read about it seem to indicate that they do not believe that the Jews are really the Jews, that the Germans are actually the Assyrians, Denmark is actually the tribe of Dan, Britain is actually Judah (the kingdom), the United States is truly Ephraim/Manassah, France is Ruben, etc.
Over all it is very Caucasion/Anglo-Saxon centric. The Germans actually seem to have similar view during the years leading to the Holocaust. Further, I find nothing historically to verify the case for that position.
What I have found is that the Jewish people have married into various peoples wherever they have gone, and that is why there are some who look more Middle Eastern, European, or African.They have migrated all over the world. Of course, some of this is because there have been people who converted and intermarried with them.
I believe that all of the Jewish tribes have their bloodlines continued in the modern Jewish people. I also believe that they will eventually be able to divide it into the twelve tribes.
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01-17-2012, 06:45 PM
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Re: Where are they today?
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Originally Posted by Jay
I have done a bit of reading on it, but I did not understand it at first. The teachings I have read about it seem to indicate that they do not believe that the Jews are really the Jews, that the Germans are actually the Assyrians, Denmark is actually the tribe of Dan, Britain is actually Judah (the kingdom), the United States is truly Ephraim/Manassah, France is Ruben, etc.
Over all it is very Caucasion/Anglo-Saxon centric. The Germans actually seem to have similar view during the years leading to the Holocaust. Further, I find nothing historically to verify the case for that position.
What I have found is that the Jewish people have married into various peoples wherever they have gone, and that is why there are some who look more Middle Eastern, European, or African.They have migrated all over the world. Of course, some of this is because there have been people who converted and intermarried with them.
I believe that all of the Jewish tribes have their bloodlines continued in the modern Jewish people. I also believe that they will eventually be able to divide it into the twelve tribes.
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Jay this is what I was looking for. Where did you find it?
I have also heard that the Cherokee Indians where Jewish.????
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01-20-2012, 02:29 PM
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Re: Where are they today?
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Originally Posted by Jay
I have done a bit of reading on it, but I did not understand it at first. The teachings I have read about it seem to indicate that they do not believe that the Jews are really the Jews, that the Germans are actually the Assyrians, Denmark is actually the tribe of Dan, Britain is actually Judah (the kingdom), the United States is truly Ephraim/Manassah, France is Ruben, etc.
Over all it is very Caucasion/Anglo-Saxon centric. The Germans actually seem to have similar view during the years leading to the Holocaust. Further, I find nothing historically to verify the case for that position.
What I have found is that the Jewish people have married into various peoples wherever they have gone, and that is why there are some who look more Middle Eastern, European, or African.They have migrated all over the world. Of course, some of this is because there have been people who converted and intermarried with them.
I believe that all of the Jewish tribes have their bloodlines continued in the modern Jewish people. I also believe that they will eventually be able to divide it into the twelve tribes.
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In looking at this again Jay, did he give references on how he came to these conclusions?
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Happy moments, PRAISE GOD.
Difficult moments, SEEK GOD.
Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD.
Painful moments, TRUST GOD.
Every moment, THANK GOD.
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01-21-2012, 07:58 PM
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Re: Where are they today?
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Originally Posted by Esther
In looking at this again Jay, did he give references on how he came to these conclusions?
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I will have to get back to you on how he arrived at his conclusions. It has been more years than I care to think about since I read the book. I will see if I can find it again and get you some of those references.
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