Old Time Pentecost

[Fiyahstarter]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. For the Kingdom of God is not a matter of eating or drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. –Romans 14:7-18.

Agreed!

And this street goes both ways.

I am not a die-hard standards person myself -- but I respect those who are. (I'm not saying you, but some on this forum definitely poke fun at looks.)

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

Agreed!

And this street goes both ways.

I am not a die-hard standards person myself -- but I respect those who are. (I'm not saying you, but some on this forum definitely poke fun at looks.)

I am probably the king of that. But only because I see the incredible pride and sense of exclusiveness buried a half inch underneath.

[Fiyahstarter]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I am probably the king of that. But only because I see the incredible pride and sense of exclusiveness buried a half inch underneath.

Well yes, I believe you do wear that crown! LOL

And not always is that "incredible pride and sense of exclusiveness" present. Sometimes, it is truly genuine commitment in what one feels is "right." And if they feel it is right, then to do otherwise (for them) would be sin.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

Sometimes, it is truly genuine commitment in what one feels is "right." And if they feel it is right, then to do otherwise (for them) would be sin.

And that is Bible!

Which is complete without the addition of concepts, like trinity or like 'personal conviction'. Just use what is there.. it works.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

Well yes, I believe you do wear that crown! LOL

And not always is that "incredible pride and sense of exclusiveness" present. Sometimes, it is truly genuine commitment in what one feels is "right." And if they feel it is right, then to do otherwise (for them) would be sin.

Amen, exactly.

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

And that is Bible!

Which is complete without the addition of concepts, like trinity or like 'personal conviction'. Just use what is there.. it works.

LOL ! Lets see. Fiyahstarter says its a" truly genuine commitment in what one feels is "right."

I said personal conviction.

Personal -
relating to, directed to, or intended for one's personal life; intended for use by one person: a personal car.

Conviction-
a fixed or firmly held belief or opinion.
the state of being convicted.

In other words the only difference between the two is in your head. Thats where you apply your broad brush to the dogma of anything that remotely sounds like it might personally offend your newly found freedom from the mothership.

Stop being offended long enough to have a mature conversation you might find more times than not, there are more people with you than against you.

Aside from that. Too many times those who don't like standards enjoy poking fun at those who may genuinely feel like they are led in their personal walk with God to do certain things or live a certain way. When there are those like me, who have standards I keep, that couldn't care less what the rest of you do in your walk with God. My personal walk will not get you into heaven. And your personal walk will not get me into heaven.

Whats funny is when people come here and say they are "led of God to leave the Great UPC Satan" make fun of those who say they are led by God to live a little differently. Then all of a sudden God is confused. lol .
2. a fixed or firmly held belief, opinion, etc
2. a fixed or firmly held belief, opinion, etc

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

Well yes, I believe you do wear that crown! LOL

And not always is that "incredible pride and sense of exclusiveness" present. Sometimes, it is truly genuine commitment in what one feels is "right." And if they feel it is right, then to do otherwise (for them) would be sin.

Sometimes. But rarely. More often it is like the Pharisee thanking God he or she is not like the rest of the world sitting next to him or her.

[Fiyahstarter]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Sometimes. But rarely. More often it is like the Pharisee thanking God he or she is not like the rest of the world sitting next to him or her.

Rarely? Not my experience. I know plenty of sweet-spirited conservatively-dressed Pentecostals.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

Rarely? Not my experience. I know plenty of sweet-spirited conservatively-dressed Pentecostals.

Oh I know many who are/were truly humble but that has not been my experience at every single camp service that I have ever attended. The smug feeling of pride and that has permeated every single camp meeting was thick. Even here when someone goes to a meeting and speaks of "all the Pentecostals that invaded that restaurant!" in the particular town reeks of pentecostal pride, almost always in "OUR women walking the walk!" with the jean skirts, long hair, and poofs. Honestly if you took those three things away how many people would continue to identify themselves with the apostolic faith?

[Fiyahstarter]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Oh I know many who are/were truly humble but that has not been my experience at every single camp service that I have ever attended. The smug feeling of pride and that has permeated every single camp meeting was thick. Even here when someone goes to a meeting and speaks of "all the Pentecostals that invaded that restaurant!" in the particular town reeks of pentecostal pride, almost always in "OUR women walking the walk!" with the jean skirts, long hair, and poofs. Honestly if you took those three things away how many people would continue to identify themselves with the apostolic faith?

I hear your point, and have seen it too.

I've also seen it (pride) in Christians who do not uphold "the standards". They can cling to and flaunt their high style fashions and jewelry with every bit as much haughtiness.

If we could just take "ourselves" out of the formula...