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Old 01-31-2012, 06:22 AM
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[FONT=Verdana] Again…wow! The predilections you have brought here are telling. When we are born again, we become a new creature in Christ Jesus. We disassociate ourselves with all previous “orientations”, regardless of the nature/content/subject matter of any temptations we continue to experience after being born again. All sin is sin. We can never justify sin, because Scripture never does. If we succumb to temptation and sin, we can repent and be forgiven. But we must also remember that “repentance” is defined as a turning away. We are new creatures in Christ Jesus precisely because he gives us power to become new creatures. Without that transforming power, we merely the old creature with a new label.
So you don't believe these "gay Christians" should reach out to their friends and family who might still be in the gay community?
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:30 PM
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So you don't believe these "gay Christians" should reach out to their friends and family who might still be in the gay community?
I think you're misunderstanding what I mean when I say "disassociate from all previous orientations". That is an internal disassociation. That's not saying someone who has been delivered from homosexuality can't or shouldn't be a witness to others. But caution must be used. Just as we wouldn't encourage an ex-alcoholic to go back into a spiritually-unhealthy environment (think bar) to witness if they were still battling temptation with alcohol, so we would not encourage an "ex-gay" to subject themselves to an environment where they might feel they would succumb to temptation. Paul said, "But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof." (Rom 13:14)
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:33 PM
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I think you're misunderstanding what I mean when I say "disassociate from all previous orientations". That is an internal disassociation. That's not saying someone who has been delivered from homosexuality can't or shouldn't be a witness to others. But caution must be used. Just as we wouldn't encourage an ex-alcoholic to go back into a spiritually-unhealthy environment (think bar) to witness if they were still battling temptation with alcohol, so we would not encourage an "ex-gay" to subject themselves to an environment where they might feel they would succumb to temptation. Paul said, "But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof." (Rom 13:14)
That, I fully agree with.
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