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Old 02-02-2012, 07:28 PM
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Standards are not the problem. It's the judgmental attitude of people who are constantly spying and looking for obscure violations like bows in hair, clear nail polish etc. Strain at gnat and swallow a camel type folks...
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:35 PM
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Standards are not the problem. It's the judgmental attitude of people who are constantly spying and looking for obscure violations like bows in hair, clear nail polish etc. Strain at gnat and swallow a camel type folks...
OK, sometimes the standards themselves can be the problem. I realize these are fringe churches but I would never submit to having my wedding and honeymoon at a "church approved" location or having my internet activity monitored by the pastor regardless of how truly humble he was. LOL
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OK, sometimes the standards themselves can be the problem. I realize these are fringe churches but I would never submit to having my wedding and honeymoon at a "church approved" location or having my internet activity monitored by the pastor regardless of how truly humble he was. LOL
Are you kidding? I wouldn't consider that to be "standards". I consider that to be meddling.
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OK, sometimes the standards themselves can be the problem. I realize these are fringe churches but I would never submit to having my wedding and honeymoon at a "church approved" location or having my internet activity monitored by the pastor regardless of how truly humble he was. LOL
I don't see anything wrong with that in isolated instances. If someone has had a addiction to pornography and seeking to overcome, accountability is a must.
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I don't see anything wrong with that in isolated instances. If someone has had a addiction to pornography and seeking to overcome, accountability is a must.
Your talking about a specific "plan of action" in order to resolve a specific issue, in this case porn. I was referring to churches were everyone with an internet connection was automatically required to have the monitoring software installed which in turn sent weekly reports to the pastor. Huge huge difference between the two. I've only heard of a few churches requiring this and have no idea how large they were (can't imagine much more than a few dozen at most submitting to this) so again, I am not saying that half the UPC churches are this bad. I have heard of many more churches that really put the clampdown on marriage (having the ultimate say in when, were, to whom, and guests) and honeymoon locations though.

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