Rejoicing In the Sabbath:

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Jesus said...

Matthew 5:17-19 ESV
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The Law of God hasn't been abolished...only the Law of Moses. Concerning the Sabbath, the Law of God states:

Exodus 20:8-11 ESV
"Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

Rest and worship. Frankly, it's the easiest commandment to obey.

Perhaps it is but why are there no major denominations who's entire doctrine is based around other commandments?

Why isn't there a Thou Murderist Not church? Or a Covestist Not Thy Neighbors Wife Federation church? Or even an Excuse me, why doth thou needith a starship church?

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Perhaps it is but why are there no major denominations who's entire doctrine is based around other commandments?

Why isn't there a Thou Murderist Not church? Or a Covestist Not Thy Neighbors Wife Federation church? Or even an Excuse me, why doth thou needith a starship church?

Having just had a recent look into Sabbath keeping churches I have to agree with Aquila that there are Sabbath keepers in EVERY major denomination. Sometimes enough of them can be gathered up to form a 'church' of institutional proportions for corporate worship on Sabbath but most times they quietly observe Sabbath at home. They may or may not continue on with a Sunday worshiping church, many do and you would never be able to pick them out at church.

When we talked to the pastor at our last OP church about our study of Sabbath he told us that there were others in our church that observed Sabbath but kept coming to service. In Houston there are a bunch of Sabbath keeping Apostolic churches. One may find a nation wide list of such churches here: http://www.chooselord.apostolicnetwo.../saplinks.html

Many are coming to the knowledge of the importance of Sabbath in our modern world. Many are beginning to understand that this commandment was stolen from us and like all the commandments is for our good and not our harm.

I have found SDA and others like them to be like some OPs in that they have taken something that makes them 'different' and run with it in order to condemn others... and I think I've already covered how I feel about all that.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I have found SDA and others like them to be like some OPs in that they have taken something that makes them 'different' and run with it in order to condemn others... and I think I've already covered how I feel about all that.

And this is really my only issue with much of it. It isn't the observance of the Sabbath per say, it is when it is made into THE issue and the single most important doctrine of the particular group or denomination -just as the Adventists have done.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Having just had a recent look into Sabbath keeping churches I have to agree with Aquila that there are Sabbath keepers in EVERY major denomination. Sometimes enough of them can be gathered up to form a 'church' of institutional proportions for corporate worship on Sabbath but most times they quietly observe Sabbath at home. They may or may not continue on with a Sunday worshiping church, many do and you would never be able to pick them out at church.

When we talked to the pastor at our last OP church about our study of Sabbath he told us that there were others in our church that observed Sabbath but kept coming to service. In Houston there are a bunch of Sabbath keeping Apostolic churches. One may find a nation wide list of such churches here: http://www.chooselord.apostolicnetwo.../saplinks.html

Many are coming to the knowledge of the importance of Sabbath in our modern world. Many are beginning to understand that this commandment was stolen from us and like all the commandments is for our good and not our harm.

I have found SDA and others like them to be like some OPs in that they have taken something that makes them 'different' and run with it in order to condemn others... and I think I've already covered how I feel about all that.

I don't attend a "Sabbatarian church". The church I attend has a service on Saturday nights and two on Sunday Mornings. Midweek gatherings are in house churches throuhghout the week, day depending upon the house church in question. When I attended a UPCI church there were a few families who observed the Sabbath by choosing to rest an have family devotions. It was beautiful. They still attended Sunday services.

People freak out and don't understand what many of us are saying. They are thinking we are condemning all comers like the SDA churches. Not so. For me, it's an issue of sanctification not salvation. Some saved individuals are missing out on the blessings of sanctifying themselves in accordance to God's Law of Liberty and Love.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I don't attend a "Sabbatarian church". The church I attend has a service on Saturday nights and two on Sunday Mornings. Midweek gatherings are in house churches throuhghout the week, day depending upon the house church in question. When I attended a UPCI church there were a few families who observed the Sabbath by choosing to rest an have family devotions. It was beautiful. They still attended Sunday services.

People freak out and don't understand what many of us are saying. They are thinking we are condemning all comers like the SDA churches. Not so. For me, it's an issue of sanctification not salvation. Some saved individuals are missing out on the blessings of sanctifying themselves in accordance to God's Law of Liberty and Love.

So if issue of sanctification then one would be unsanctified if don't observe it?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

So if issue of sanctification then one would be unsanctified if don't observe it?

No. Lacking in potential sanctification yes. For example... one can watch television and not go to Hell. However, let's face it...there are some polutions that vex the soul on television. The one who chooses not to watch television will, in more cases than not, be more sanctified than the one who does...at least in this regard.