Rejoicing In the Sabbath:

[mfblume]

First of all please stop calling me "Rev". Thanks.

Now

The Law of God is still present identifying sin in both the lives of the unsaved and the saved.

It is done away with so far as serving its purpose to bring Israel to Christ and show what sin is. We only use it for reference sake to show sin and explain how no man could be saved by works.

Let’s look at the entire verse and I’ll show you that this isn’t entirely what you think:

Acts 20:7-8
7And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
8And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together.

The first thing we must note is that the calendar of the early church measured days from sun-down to sun-down.

That is of no consequence, since they were not KEEPING A DAY as you feel we must keep sabbath. I am just showing you they chose to have church the first day fo the week.

We read that the disciples came together "to break bread", and Paul preached unto them "until midnight". This tells us something… if Paul preached until midnight on the “first day of the week” the disciples had to have gathered "to break bread" shortly after sun-down on Saturday evening.

You are missing the forest for the trees again. Who cares when such and such happened? It's not a holy day anyway. I just showed they had church the first day of the week. We are not considering that day holy any more than the sabbath is no longer in effect as a holy day. HOLY DAYS are gone now. Gal 4:9-11.

What we see is the disciples, and Paul, closing the Sabbath. So, let's read it again with what we now know and see if we see a "Sunday worship service" in this text....

Acts 20:7-8
7And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
8And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together.

Upon review, I believe that most readers would agree with me that it is obviously a false pretense to say that this verse validates a Sunday worship service based merely on the words "first day of the week". It was a service closing the Sabbath on Saturday night that began shortly after sun-down, "the first day of the week".

So…nice try Rev. Blume.

You totally missed my point, and I am not "REV". You are incorporating legalism of sabbath day into the first day of the week as though we think the sabbath changed from saturday to sunday, when we actually claim there is NO HOLY DAY any more.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by mfblume

First of all please stop calling me "Rev". Thanks.

Now

It is done away with so far as serving its purpose to bring Israel to Christ and show what sin is. We only use it for reference sake to show sin and explain how no man could be saved by works.



That is of no consequence, since they were not KEEPING A DAY as you feel we must keep sabbath. I am just showing you they chose to have church the first day fo the week.



You are missing the forest for the trees again. Who cares when such and such happened? It's not a holy day anyway. I just showed they had church the first day of the week. We are not considering that day holy any more than the sabbath is no longer in effect as a holy day. HOLY DAYS are gone now. Gal 4:9-11.



You totally missed my point, and I am not "REV". You are incorporating legalism of sabbath day into the first day of the week as though we think the sabbath changed from saturday to sunday, when we actually claim there is NO HOLY DAY any more.

My point is that this was an event that transpired on SATURDAY night just after the SABBATH gatherings. We DON'T see SUNDAY worship here.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Aquila

My point is that this was an event that transpired on SATURDAY night just after the SABBATH gatherings. We DON'T see SUNDAY worship here.

You are missing the forest for the trees. And you got it from books of Sabbatarians.

Stick with the Bible, bro. It's either this or that doctrine with you in the last few months.

Sabbath was a shadow of things to come -- the body of Christ. We are out of the days of shadows now. All shadows, from Adam to Christ.

Sunday when we have church is the first day of the week when the Jews had their meetings on the first day. It's all the same day. But to dissect with part of the first day is to be as off as sabbath keepers in my mind because that is an emphasis on shadows and analysis of weak-faithed Christianity. It's so "outward".

Show ONE VERSE where the Lord and apostles commanded KEEP SABBATH DAY, One verse.

Do not go to what people DID that has not explicit command to do so in teaching format.

All the disciples said about Gentiles coming into the church that had to do with Old Covenant was to tell them not to eat meats offered to idols, no blood and do not eat things strangled. NO SABBATH WAS MENTIONED.

And I KNOW the pat-answer sabbatarians give. They say that is because they also said Moses is read in every city as if they can learn from the Rabbi's from the synagogues about sabbath. NO! The reason they noted this must be done because Moses is read every sabbath is because they were saying, "And make sure they get these as the ONLY requirements, otherwise they will be influenced by Judaists in every city on their sabbaths who preach sabbathkeeping."

Acts 15:19-21 KJV Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: (20) But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. (21) For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.