Jerry Falwell

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Hmmm...once again? dan that is dishonest. I posted that a LONG time ago and after you posted information that MKJ was active in politics I conceded he was a politician...so how can you, AFTER that face post something I said a while ago and say "once again"? Are you THAT desparate to win a little tiny point against me? Wow.

Like I said, it's not really relevant to the topic or even what I was getting it. In fact I would say just you posting this on a non-issue is obfuscating the bigger issue we were discussing. But I digress as it seems you are on roll Dan, willing to say or do anything to win a point. I concede Dan, you were right King IS a politician...I said that already, but perhaps dreams of a scooby snack clouded your vision.

you win dan! Get your scooby snack and have a scooby doo fit. Yup, Dan you won that round. MLK was a Politician too lol..

Once again you have not presented a case for why he was not a great Christian leader ... when the consensus among those he even hate him ... acknowledge his contributions to the Christian right

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Once again you have not presented a case for why he was not a great Christian leader ... when the consensus among those he even hate him ... acknowledge his contributions to the Christian right

So you are saying your definition of great Christian leader is contributing to the Christian Right, a political movement?

Well I disagree and if you think I have not given MY reasons for why I feel this way then you have not been paying attention, If you think my reasons were not good enough for YOU, then that is fine Dan. You are welcome to your opinion of this man. Seriously, but I was really kinda of surprised someone really believed or considered him a great Christian or solid Christian leader. Seriously, if that is how you and the other Dan feels, that's fine. Don't lose any sleep over the fact that I disagree with you ok?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

So you are saying your definition of great Christian leader is contributing to the Christian Right, a political movement?

Well I disagree and if you think I have not given MY reasons for why I feel this way then you have not been paying attention, If you think my reasons were not good enough for YOU, then that is fine Dan. You are welcome to your opinion of this man. Seriously, but I was really kinda of surprised someone really believed or considered him a great Christian or solid Christian leader. Seriously, if that is how you and the other Dan feels, that's fine. Don't lose any sleep over the fact that I disagree with you ok?

Your first reason was you did'nt think preachers should be involved politically ... imagine if Martin Luther [Reformation], Dr. King and other hadn't been???

What are your other reasons ... he's a cessasionist ... is not enough.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Your first reason was you did'nt think preachers should be involved politically ... imagine if Martin Luther [Reformation], Dr. King and other hadn't been???

What are you're other reasons ... he's a cessasionist ... is not enough.

I DON'T think preachers should be politicans, but where did I say that was MY reason for saying he was not a great Christian leader?

That he is a cessasionist has nothing to do with being a Christian leader. Remember dan I am not saying he was not a Christian nor am I saying he was not a leader.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I DON'T think preachers should be politicans, but where did I say that was MY reason for saying he was not a great Christian leader?

That he is a cessasionist has nothing to do with being a Christian leader. Remember dan I am not saying he was not a Christian nor am I saying he was not a leader.

He's just not great in your eyes ....

well your opinion has been processed ... and heard ...

he's still great to millions in the Christian community ....

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

He's just not great in your eyes ....

well your opinion has been processed ... and heard ...

he's still great to millions in the Christian community ....

Dan, that is ALL I have been saying from the beginning...in MY opinion. Good grief. I said from the beginning it's MY opinion

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No, I was pointing out that he WAFFLED a lot by saying no more politics...just preaching....Im back in politics, no Im not.

Second, Dan, I never said he was NOT a "great leader". I did not consider him a great CHRISTIAN leader. If that is your sacred cow and you feel I stepped on your toes little buddy then forgive me. But for the reasons listed I never did consider him a great or solid Christian leader. He was a very VISIBLE Christian.....he was a very politically active Christian, but I never considered him a great Christian leader.

.....He might be a leader. He might be a visible voice for morality. That does not make the man necessarily a great christian leader.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I DON'T think preachers should be politicans, but where did I say that was MY reason for saying he was not a great Christian leader?

That he is a cessasionist has nothing to do with being a Christian leader. Remember dan I am not saying he was not a Christian nor am I saying he was not a leader.

More Praxeas ... PRETZEL LOGIC ....

He is a great leader? Is he a visible Christian? Is he a leader, christian and even great? The more I read these two quotes ... the more confusing and twisted it becomes

What is it that bothers you ... Prax ??? Stringing it all into one little phrase

Say it w/ me ...

GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER ....

ONE MORE TIME ....