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Originally Posted by jfrog
What was that fetus before the 12th gestational week? It's turned into a human being after that last week, what was it before it turned into a human being? (use a term other than potential human being please  )
Before I tackle that 2nd bolded comment let's deal with the principle that the only way something can turn into a human being is if it was something else to begin with. |
Nah. That's just you splitting hairs again.
You tell me what else it can be? You want to say a human fetus is something other than human? I might say that would be so if it were a tumor.
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Hmmm....I am just trying to figure you out, your frame of mind, what makes you tick. If this subject were not so important, I would just drop you like I would all ignorant people who do not want to learn. The kind whose thinking process is all mixed up in concrete and set. But, I think you are smarter than that type of mindset.
The words zygote, blastocyte, fetus are only words to describe stages of development of the human being. I can humor you and say you are correct that it is called a fetus, but calling something a fetus does not make it any less human while it is still in the developing stage. You seem to want to make a big deal out of words. And perhaps I fueled some of your argument here when I said "potential human being". So I will rescind those poor choice of words because you jumped on that one like a hot potato to try to crush the premise of a baby in the womb being something other than a human being. I used the "potential" part not to say the baby is not human inside the womb, but in my mind the context was to be for after the baby was born. You see when we are born, our birthdays are not counted from the time of conception...that's true, but on the day we are born. It is our day of birth. But we would have never gotten the chance to be born if our mothers snuffed us out before that day came simply because they did not want us or have time for us.
Let's see..you've called a baby in the womb a "zygote". That is technically correct because a zygote is a one-celled entity. You used to be a zygote. But you ceased to be a zygote once you divided into more than one cell. So you ceased to be a zygote and became a blastocyte after you implanted in your mother's womb.
After implantation, you developed into an embryo. The next 10 weeks were spent developing all your organs, head, arms, legs, feet, fingers, toes etc until you are a fully formed human. By week 10 after conception, your face had a human profile.
There was a government study released in 2007 declaring that embryos are human.
“Embryos are Humans” Says U.S. Government Report on Stem Cell Research
WASHINGTON, D.C., January 10, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) –
A new report by the United States governments’ Domestic Policy Council admits that embryos are human beings; the only differences between embryos and other human beings, says the report, are accidental differences in levels of development.
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Embryos are humans in their earliest developmental stage,” writes the Council.
“We do not have to think that human embryos are exactly the same in all ways as older humans to believe that they are entitled to respect and protection. Each of us originated as a single-celled embryo, and from that moment have developed along a continuous biological trajectory throughout our existence. To speak of ‘an embryo’ is to designate a human being at a particular stage.”
The Domestic Policy Council, which coordinates the domestic policy-making process in the White House, and which is under the direction of President Bush, made these unequivocal statements about the human embryo in its report on stem-cell research entitled, “Advancing Stem Cell Science without Destroying Human Life.”
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/emb...-cell-research
But I didn't really need a government report to tell me that because scripture told me that.
Jeremiah wrote that God knew him before he was even conceived.
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Jeremiah 1:5
The Center for Bioethics and Human Dignity used my choice of words of "potential human beings" but added that: "These frozen embryos are not just “potential” human beings; they are in every way human life".
http://cbhd.org/content/frozen-embry...-or-human-life
So technically, I was not wrong in using the words "potential human beings", but again, because you want to make an issue that a baby is something else other than a human being in the womb, I will rescind those words for this discussion, but not the fact that these words are used in courts and studies.
I am amused at the absurdity of your reasoning.
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