Arnold's Proof of Apostolic Doctrine in History

[Sam]

[QUOTE=Adino;1005901]It is telling that Rev. Arnold never defines what he means by "UPPER ROOM CHURCH of Acts, Jerusalem, AD 33" .../QUOTE]

A couple of thoughts:
1. Wasn't the Holy Spirit outpouring in Acts chapter 2 upon people who were already believers?

2. How big was that "Upper Room" to hold 120 people, then a huge crowd, then 3000 people getting baptized?

[NorCal]

[QUOTE=Sam;1155476]

Originally Posted by Adino

It is telling that Rev. Arnold never defines what he means by "UPPER ROOM CHURCH of Acts, Jerusalem, AD 33" .../QUOTE]

A couple of thoughts:
1. Wasn't the Holy Spirit outpouring in Acts chapter 2 upon people who were already believers?

2. How big was that "Upper Room" to hold 120 people, then a huge crowd, then 3000 people getting baptized?

At question #1 - Believing makes you saved? Confess with your Mouth? Jesus said that you must be born of the water and of the spirit. Peter said you must Repent and be Baptized. The point is, we need the WHOLE Doctrine of Salvation.

At question #2 - Umm, the 3000 were in the street. Peter preached from a window? I believe historians say it was like a guest banquette hall, large enough to hold 120 people.

[Sam]

[QUOTE=NorCal;1155492]

Originally Posted by Sam

...At question #2 - Umm, the 3000 were in the street. Peter preached from a window? I believe historians say it was like a guest banquette hall, large enough to hold 120 people.

Or maybe the Holy Spirit outpouring happened in the Temple?
Luke 24:49-53 records that after Jesus promised them the Holy Spirit Baptism by which they would be endued or clothed with power they were continually in the Temple praising and blessing God. After Pentecost it is recorded that they gathered in Solomon's porch according to Acts 5:12.

The "upper room" of Acts 1:13 was probably a place where some of the first century disciples lived. They were probably gathering in the Temple and were there on Pentecost or Shavu'ot on Sunday May 28, AD 30 when the Holy Spirit was poured out on about 1/4 of the early church (120 of the more than 500 believers at that time according to 1 Corinthians 15:6). The 3000 who were water baptized that day most likely self-immersed in the many available mikveh places that were there in the temple for ritual purification. One Bible (One New Man Bible) has a note at Acts chapter 2 that 3000 people could be baptized or immersed (self-immersion was the custom at that time) in about 20 minutes.