Repentance, Holiness, and the Church

bbyrd009 · #1 05-17-2012, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JamDat

I don't think your reading everything that I'm writing (which I understand and tend to do to.) This started between you and I because your implication of muslims being saved.

I do believe the bible that once one is born again they are forgiven. Forgiven from past, present, and future sin.

The church is His bride of whom I belong and I'm waiting for that glorious day of the marriage supper. I have great reservation though of people who think that God is a polygamist and will have several brides at that feast. Jesus is the way the truth and the life. There is only one Lord, one faith, one baptism. There will only be one bride at that supper.

You seem to think that muslim will take the path of allah and and be at that supper.

I don't think this; it is assured to me, at "many will cry, 'Lord, Lord," and the separation parable. These assure me that any human who thinks they have God cornered should think again.

There is only one Lord, Faith, Baptism, amen. One "born again." As soon as you release your definitions of those words, and seek God's definitions of them, this apparent polygamy will resolve.

It's early, ya, and while I read your post, I didn't connect it too well with my post that it answered. I'll look again after 2nd cup, which is here : )

JamDat · #2 05-17-2012, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bbyrd009

I don't think this; it is assured to me, at "many will cry, 'Lord, Lord," and the separation parable. These assure me that any human who thinks they have God cornered should think again.

There is only one Lord, Faith, Baptism, amen. One "born again." As soon as you release your definitions of those words, and seek God's definitions of them, this apparent polygamy will resolve.

It's early, ya, and while I read your post, I didn't connect it too well with my post that it answered. I'll look again after 2nd cup, which is here : )

You seem to think that you have God's definition of being born again. Please tell me so that I may see how the people who reject Jesus Christ as being God will be at the marriage supper of the Lamb.

bbyrd009 · #3 05-17-2012, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JamDat

You seem to think that you have God's definition of being born again. Please tell me so that I may see how the people who reject Jesus Christ as being God will be at the marriage supper of the Lamb.

You say they "reject Christ." Please see that while
they might reject the Catholic Christ, with their mouths
or words, it is what is in their hearts also, that will
determine whether they are in the Book.

"Born again" = change your mind, completely,
recognizing that this "change your mind" has
almost nothing to do with the way we interpret
the phrase: "I was going to have a doughnut,
but I changed my mind."

I currently like "observe what most humans
are thinking, and think differently" which does
end up producing some contrarian, if valid,
posts that are surely not taken well, especially
about venerated Presidents, for which I again
apologize. Ronnie was a nice guy, and did some
good things.

I look forward to better defs here, and think
physics, of all things, will shortly be providing some.
"...even greater things will you do..." so when someone
does, they will be better qualified to expand our def, imo.
Gandhi seems a great example.

JamDat · #4 05-17-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bbyrd009

You say they "reject Christ." Please see that while
they might reject the Catholic Christ, with their mouths
or words, it is what is in their hearts also, that will
determine whether they are in the Book.

"Born again" = change your mind, completely,
recognizing that this "change your mind" has
almost nothing to do with the way we interpret
the phrase: "I was going to have a doughnut,
but I changed my mind."

I currently like "observe what most humans
are thinking, and think differently" which does
end up producing some contrarian, if valid,
posts that are surely not taken well, especially
about venerated Presidents, for which I again
apologize. Ronnie was a nice guy, and did some
good things.

I look forward to better defs here, and think
physics, of all things, will shortly be providing some.
"...even greater things will you do..." so when someone
does, they will be better qualified to expand our def, imo.
Gandhi seems a great example.

Gandhi seems to be a great example of being born again?

You and I are not even in the same zip code.

There will not be sheep that are separated crying did we not do this or that. Those will be goats.

Don't be a goat. Humble yourself before the Lord and submit to Him. Let Him crush you now and repent. I beg you for your sake to pray that He accepts you. Realize what your righteousness is and let Him save you.

AreYouReady? · #5 05-17-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JamDat

Gandhi seems to be a great example of being born again?

Ha!

JamDat, you must learn to decode bbyrd's dialogue.

I think he is trying to say IF Gandhi were a born again Christian, he would be a great example. Much more of an example than many believers are.

JamDat · #6 05-17-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Ha!

JamDat, you must learn to decode bbyrd's dialogue.

I think he is trying to say IF Gandhi were a born again Christian, he would be a great example. Much more of an example than many believers are.

I would disagree with that too. Gandhi was a sexual pervert.

Dordrecht · #7 05-17-2012, 10:17 AM

Just like Joe Smith and Mohammed, Ghandhi was deceived.

bbyrd009 · #8 05-17-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JamDat

I would disagree with that too. Gandhi was a sexual pervert.

You are judging him, however, by your standards,
when the standards of his society say differently.
You can buy children there. But I'm not defending
him, don't know about his exploits or anything.
And I seriously doubt you do, either.

AreYouReady? · #9 05-17-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JamDat

I would disagree with that too. Gandhi was a sexual pervert.

Some would say the popes and bishops (past or present) were sexual perverts, because of the pedophile scandals. It doesn't make it true or untrue.

Some would say all pentecostal pastors were perverts because of a few. Doesn't make it true or untrue.

Look, we know that history as it really happened has been rewritten to make somebody look good or bad.

Lee Harvey Oswald was branded the killer of John F. Kennedy without a trial by his peers and has gone down in history as his killer. Had he lived and had a trial, would he have been acquitted? We will never know.

We have a case right in this area where a high profile person has been lauded as a hero in his death. But the locals know what kind of man he really was.

So...we have some Christians who have been saved by the blood of the Lamb and they throw that away because they love the riches of this world and because they want to exercise power over God's people. And some want to say that is not perversion of what Christ taught?

bbyrd009 · #10 05-17-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Ha!

JamDat, you must learn to decode bbyrd's dialogue.

I think he is trying to say IF Gandhi were a born again Christian, he would be a great example. Much more of an example than many believers are.

Hmm; I like your answer well enough;
but what I meant was that if Gandhi
were a born-again Christian he would
prolly be useless as well. Maybe not, tho.

He's a great example right now,
at least of NVC. He revolutionized
"change your mind."