A Picture of Jesus

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by acerrak

your way of translation is probably not the proper way since it does say adam is cain's father.

genesis 4:1 is very explicit

vat·ta·har וַתַּ֙הַר֙ to conceive, become pregnant

in order to be pregnent adam had to
had relations יָדַ֖ע ya·da 3045 to know. they had sex dude

Ok, yes. "It" also says that satan is Cain's father, NT,
and Cain is not in Adam's geneology, is that like a typo?
Adam surely raised Cain, no pun intended.
None of these is "my way of translation,"
please understand I'm just parroting masters,
and I don't have all the answers either.

But I know who Cain's father was, to my satisfaction,
and you do to yours. Amen.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Ok, yes. "It" also says that satan is Cain's father, NT,
and Cain is not in Adam's geneology, is that like a typo?
Adam surely raised Cain, no pun intended.
None of these is "my way of translation,"
please understand I'm just parroting masters,
and I don't have all the answers either.

But I know who Cain's father was, to my satisfaction,
and you do to yours. Amen.

that is noahs geneology from adam. notice it doesnt say abel in the geneology either. cause it is showing the link of Noah through Seth, not cain or able. again you cant get passed ch 4:1 and the genoeology supports the family line of noah through seth, all of the other decendants was destroyed in the flood. You also notice that after the flood the kids have there family time line started.


also like i said ch 4 plainly said it, this from the NIV

Genesis 4
Cain and Abel
1 Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man.” 2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by acerrak

that is noahs geneology from adam. notice it doesnt say abel in the geneology either. cause it is showing the link of Noah through Seth, not cain or able. again you cant get passed ch 4:1 and the genoeology supports the family line of noah through seth, all of the other decendants was destroyed in the flood. You also notice that after the flood the kids have there family time line started.


also like i said ch 4 plainly said it, this from the NIV

Genesis 4
Cain and Abel
1 Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man.” 2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.

Ok, but understand that we read like children, too literally;
and NIV? Please? You need to toss that garbage anyway.
Understand that there are many other possible translations
of any one Scripture, and if you read the primitive text of any one,
you are going to go "how the heck did they get this from that?"

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Ok, but understand that we read like children, too literally;
and NIV? Please? You need to toss that garbage anyway.
Understand that there are many other possible translations
of any one Scripture, and if you read the primitive text of any one,
you are going to go "how the heck did they get this from that?"

the niv is a decent translation, the king james is a ok translation, however you just dont want to admit your wrong on the subject.

however i am willing to go back to the hebrew with you on this and i would love to see how you translate word for word genesis chapter 4;1