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06-28-2012, 01:48 PM
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Re: Supreme Court ObamaCare Ruling
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Romney supports a mandate. Whether that is on the Federal or State level, it's socialism and it's a big government grab. I don't see a difference between the two.
Romney was one of the loudest, imploring voices for adopting the Obamacare/individual mandate and then, during the presidential campaign, lied by denying it. That is just another very long litany of lies which keeps us from having any confidence in the guy. Pimp him to someone else.
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PO can't believe you can't see a difference between the Muslin Obama vs the American Romney.
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06-28-2012, 02:26 PM
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Re: Supreme Court ObamaCare Ruling
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PO can't believe you can't see a difference between the Muslin Obama vs the American Romney.
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Their religions are similar as are the policies they have supported. Just because he maneuvered to the right for this election cycle, doesn't make him a Conservative. Oh, wait, he said he is a "severe" Conservative. 
Newt said that he might turn out to be a good President and he might, but I'm not giving this man one inch of leeway. He has a huge documented, flip-flopping record. He has to earn that trust and his words are not enough for me. I want to see him do something. Unfortunately, we will not know that until he is voted in.
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06-28-2012, 02:54 PM
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Re: Supreme Court ObamaCare Ruling
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Their religions are similar as are the policies they have supported. Just because he maneuvered to the right for this election cycle, doesn't make him a Conservative. Oh, wait, he said he is a "severe" Conservative.
Newt said that he might turn out to be a good President and he might, but I'm not giving this man one inch of leeway. He has a huge documented, flip-flopping record. He has to earn that trust and his words are not enough for me. I want to see him do something. Unfortunately, we will not know that until he is voted in. |
All of that is true. However, we DO know what Obama will do and I for one will vote for anyone but him.
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06-28-2012, 02:56 PM
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Re: Supreme Court ObamaCare Ruling
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All of that is true. However, we DO know what Obama will do and I for one will vote for anyone but him.
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Yes, we do know and we have a Constitution and a military that takes an oath to uphold the Constitution. I do not fear Obama.
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06-28-2012, 03:19 PM
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Re: Supreme Court ObamaCare Ruling
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Yes, we do know and we have a Constitution and a military that takes an oath to uphold the Constitution. I do not fear Obama.
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The military will follow the orders of the President. Not sure what your point was with that statement. Unfortunatly, unless we are attacked, the military has no rights on our own soil. So either the Pres would have to envoke martial law or their would have to be a military coup. Neither of which is likely.
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06-28-2012, 03:31 PM
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Re: Supreme Court ObamaCare Ruling
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The military will follow the orders of the President. Not sure what your point was with that statement. Unfortunatly, unless we are attacked, the military has no rights on our own soil. So either the Pres would have to envoke martial law or their would have to be a military coup. Neither of which is likely.
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I was referring to an idea floating around that Obama would stop elections. A friend of mine spoke to someone higher up in the military and he told her that the military would never let that happen. That they would defend the Constitution. So, they won't allow him to reach as far as some are trying to fear monger about. Sorry, I didn't clearly lay out my thought process.
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06-28-2012, 04:02 PM
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Re: Supreme Court ObamaCare Ruling
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I was referring to an idea floating around that Obama would stop elections. A friend of mine spoke to someone higher up in the military and he told her that the military would never let that happen. That they would defend the Constitution. So, they won't allow him to reach as far as some are trying to fear monger about. Sorry, I didn't clearly lay out my thought process.
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But if Maritial Law is declared doesn't that stop the voting?
He does have that power.
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06-29-2012, 10:27 AM
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Re: Supreme Court ObamaCare Ruling
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PO can't believe you can't see a difference between the Muslin Obama vs the American Romney.
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PO has her eyes open, thinks for herself unlike some whose head is stuck in the sand.
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06-29-2012, 10:39 AM
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Re: Supreme Court ObamaCare Ruling
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PO has her eyes open, thinks for herself unlike some whose head is stuck in the sand.
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Yeah right. There is no credible rationale for not voting for Romney over Obama.
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06-29-2012, 11:15 AM
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Re: Supreme Court ObamaCare Ruling
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Yeah right. There is no credible rationale for not voting for Romney over Obama.
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What's Romney going to do? We'd have to look at the waivers. Romney said he would issue waivers and then work on a repeal. He's admitted that the waivers could be tied up in lawsuits for months, there would be some confusion as to what portions of the Bill the waivers would cover and what restrictions would apply, such as, the waivers don't kick in until around 2017. And what if some of the more liberal states don't request a waiver?
He's also stated that he would use Executive Order to Repeal, but he's limited on that because, he can't act against the will of Congress.
It's a little confusing as to what they are going to do. We'll have to ask Newt because, Romney has no clarity.
Here's Newt's plan - http://www.newt.org/solutions/healthcare/
And here’s Romney. Not one mention on the lie of “ObamaCare was upheld” or the fact that Robert's changed the whole definition of “mandate vs. tax” concept. And he took no questions at the end of his speech. How many times is the ball going to cross the plate for a perfect home run hit and this is what we will get?
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