Liberal "Three-Steppers"

[Pneuman]

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire

I don't know if Liberal 3-steppers is the proper term.

However I find that a lot of people who don't believe in some of the stricter ultra-con standards also don't adhere to Acts 2:38/John 3:5 being the Plan of Salvation.

I would consider myself a liberal or moderate three stepper. I watch movies, wear shorts, go swimming in public, have a tv, play sports, etc. Probably because I grew up PAW and we were never taught those things were sin.

However I believe in practical holiness. I do not listen to secular music, curse, practice sin, etc I'm split on the women wearing pants issue, but I don't condemn anyone to Hell for it. I believe that one must repent of your sin, be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, and be filled with the Holy Ghost to be saved. Are there others like this? Especially ex-UPC?

I ask this because I am moving to an area where there are none of the PAW or PCAF churches I grew up in... and there are only UPC churches in the area. I don't know the specific standards because I haven't gotten a hold of the church yet to discuss that with their pastor BUT I don't know how they'll receive an OP like me that's strong on the doctrine, but will probably be keeping his TV... will be going to the movies every once and again... etc. I'm wondering how that will be received.

Have you fully checked the area you are moving to? There are, as you see, many UPC churches that have a variety of stands on these issues. There are also other oneness organizations (PAJC, GNCM, etc.) as well as independent ones.

Good luck!

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Yukon

Have you fully checked the area you are moving to? There are, as you see, many UPC churches that have a variety of stands on these issues. There are also other oneness organizations (PAJC, GNCM, etc.) as well as independent ones.

Good luck!

Are these 3 step orgs?

[Titus2woman]

Here in Texas you could find a UPC church that is exactly what you are looking for. Strictly 3 stepper but with pretty relaxed standards on dress and media. Or an independent oneness church with UPC roots like Grace Church in Humble comes to mind. The hard line old timers always like to say that as soon as a church relaxes it standards they stop preaching repentance, Jesus name baptism and HG infilling but it's just not true.

I personally am a three stepper if I had to say but see how people have come to other conclusions. I still wear dresses only pretty much because I love them and own a bunch. I don't have any trouble hunting, fishing, hiking, biking, riding a horse, etc in a skirt. I can't run due to a plate in my ankle but i walk at the local HS track with a bunch of ladies from the local OP church and we all wear skirts and several of the girls from my former UPC church do marathons in skirts. I love how they hide my huge rear end the way pants never could

I don't enjoy secular music much and listen to gospel and contemporary Christian music mostly but I'm not offended by secular music that is not trying to be offensive (some is). I drink wine but don't get drunk. I use whatever language is appropriate to the situation believing that what is a 'cuss' word is decided by the time and place... I don't 'curse' anyone ever and try not to be offensive with my language, but alas have failed a time or two with those constantly looking to be offended.

I don't own a TV. Many of my more educated secular friends including a lesbian doctor don't either, so I don't see a lack of TV as any kind of 'holiness' statement. It is just a mind numbing retard box I don't need sucking up the time I have to get other stuff done. I watch interesting stuff on the internet and occasionally (very) go to movies which I just see as a bad bargain... lot of money for little entertainment.

Of course I don't currently 'go' to church anywhere and that seems to be suiting me better then I ever believed it would so maybe my opinions shouldn't count