Catholicism & Women

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The Catholic Church is actually the worst Christian Cult of all time. Millions were killed by them over the years. They do teach one thing I agree with them on at least in countries other than America. The womans headcovering.

I am not sure that one can assign 'levels' of bad to cultic behavior. JW, Mormons, Branch Davidians, etc. are plenty rotten... think Jim Jones for an example of a bad 'Christian' cult, think Warren Jeffs...

I think the view that the RCC is the 'worst' stems simply from the fact that they have 2,000 years of history, not 200 or 20 and that they have millions of members not thousands or hundreds or scores. It's simple multiplication, not being any worse. They also were around in much rougher times and places then some of the cushy religions of today.

To their credit they have carried the torch of Christ through time. Many tend to forget when they hold their precious Fox's Book of Martyrs that those saints were... Catholic.

I think the UPC would be mortified to find out exactly how much they share with Catholicism. I think that the RCC is a great example of 'But for the Grace of God go I." But I would never go so far as to deny that they are my brothers and sisters in Christ.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I am not sure that one can assign 'levels' of bad to cultic behavior. JW, Mormons, Branch Davidians, etc. are plenty rotten... think Jim Jones for an example of a bad 'Christian' cult, think Warren Jeffs...

I think the view that the RCC is the 'worst' stems simply from the fact that they have 2,000 years of history, not 200 or 20 and that they have millions of members not thousands or hundreds or scores. It's simple multiplication, not being any worse. They also were around in much rougher times and places then some of the cushy religions of today.

To their credit they have carried the torch of Christ through time. Many tend to forget when they hold their precious Fox's Book of Martyrs that those saints were... Catholic.

I think the UPC would be mortified to find out exactly how much they share with Catholicism. I think that the RCC is a great example of 'But for the Grace of God go I." But I would never go so far as to deny that they are my brothers and sisters in Christ.

No the worse is because they have actually KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE who disagree with their doctrines. I have never heard of one person being beheaded or drawn and quartered by Oneness believers. The Catholic martyrs you mention were killed BY CATHOLICS because they disagreed with Catholic doctrine including the veneration of Mary.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

No the worse is because they have actually KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE who disagree with their doctrines. I have never heard of one person being beheaded or drawn and quartered by Oneness believers. The Catholic martyrs you mention were killed BY CATHOLICS because they disagreed with Catholic doctrine including the veneration of Mary.

I do not doubt for one minute that if there had been Apostolic Pentecostal preachers during the dark ages and the crusades they would have committed murders aplenty, as if those who rape young boys today are any better. The Jews wiped out whole nations including women, children and even livestock and the protestant reformers like Luther also killed those who did not agree with them... again it's just the scale of the Catholics to which you are objecting. More Catholics, more killing of Catholics by Catholics, simple math. And to this day Pentecostals 'kill' others who do not share their doctrine with hate speech and putting them in hell... Remember the words of Christ... To hate is as to kill... Same diff.