Friends church droppped "standards"

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by UltimateUltraConservative

Would the Pentecostal woman really consider leaving her child to go off to war in the first place? Or consider going at all, regardless of parental status? Just wondering...

If government decides and passes a law requiring conscription (military draft) to the nation for all people between the ages of 18-35, the women will not have a choice in the matter. There has been talk in the not so distant past of military conscription for females.

[UltimateUltraConservative]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

If government decides and passes a law requiring conscription (military draft) to the nation for all people between the ages of 18-35, the women will not have a choice in the matter. There has been talk in the not so distant past of military conscription for females.

Oh really?! I hadn't heard that. Guess I'd better start praying and fasting or go into hiding until I'm 36 then! lol

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by UltimateUltraConservative

Oh really?! I hadn't heard that. Guess I'd better start praying and fasting or go into hiding until I'm 36 then! lol

You haven't been paying attention to the last 2 presidents State of the Union addresses? Bush and Obama both made references to military or civil service for all young men and women.

But...what about those younger than you? Or your daughters?

Consider this one article about it from 2 years ago. The fact that it actually made it into the MSM tells the people that the government has been considering it for years.

Oh and the age limit has been going up each time one of the Congressmen introduce a mandatory service bill. This one from 2010...the age limit went up to 42-years-old.

"The bill provides for a national-service obligation – either military or civilian – for every citizen and permanent resident, male and female, of the U.S., aged 18 to 42."


http://www.wnd.com/2010/07/184325/

[UltimateUltraConservative]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

You haven't been paying attention to the last 2 presidents State of the Union addresses? Bush and Obama both made references to military or civil service for all young men and women.

But...what about those younger than you? Or your daughters?

Consider this one article about it from 2 years ago. The fact that it actually made it into the MSM tells the people that the government has been considering it for years.

Oh and the age limit has been going up each time one of the Congressmen introduce a mandatory service bill. This one from 2010...the age limit went up to 42-years-old.

"The bill provides for a national-service obligation – either military or civilian – for every citizen and permanent resident, male and female, of the U.S., aged 18 to 42."


http://www.wnd.com/2010/07/184325/

Nope, haven't paid any attention to the SU addresses.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by UltimateUltraConservative

Nope, haven't paid any attention to the SU addresses.

Mom raised us boys, while having to work outside the home, but not always were her jobs 40 hrs/wk. This was done to help keep the budget balanced at home. She still works by cleaning other peoples homes, although she has also worked at grocery stores, cleaning a psychologist's office building, receptionist at a bed and breakfast/exotic animal farm, and other jobs that I have since forgotten. Some of these were done while actively being the pastor's wife. It does happen.

[UltimateUltraConservative]

Originally Posted by Jay

Mom raised us boys, while having to work outside the home, but not always were her jobs 40 hrs/wk. This was done to help keep the budget balanced at home. She still works by cleaning other peoples homes, although she has also worked at grocery stores, cleaning a psychologist's office building, receptionist at a bed and breakfast/exotic animal farm, and other jobs that I have since forgotten. Some of these were done while actively being the pastor's wife. It does happen.

Why'd ya quote me for!? lol

[Jay]

Originally Posted by UltimateUltraConservative

Why'd ya quote me for!? lol

It made sense at the time?

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Jay

Mom raised us boys, while having to work outside the home, but not always were her jobs 40 hrs/wk. This was done to help keep the budget balanced at home. She still works by cleaning other peoples homes, although she has also worked at grocery stores, cleaning a psychologist's office building, receptionist at a bed and breakfast/exotic animal farm, and other jobs that I have since forgotten. Some of these were done while actively being the pastor's wife. It does happen.

I am sure it does happen...just hasn't happened here that I have seen.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

If government decides and passes a law requiring conscription (military draft) to the nation for all people between the ages of 18-35, the women will not have a choice in the matter. There has been talk in the not so distant past of military conscription for females.

There should be a conscientious objector status just as there was in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. If there is, our ladies should be lining up around the block for it. This would solve any objections. If that fails, then we should understand that we are under persecution for our religious convictions, something that has begun to happen anyway.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Jay

There should be a conscientious objector status just as there was in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. If there is, our ladies should be lining up around the block for it. This would solve any objections. If that fails, then we should understand that we are under persecution for our religious convictions, something that has begun to happen anyway.

Jay, just so you remember...I consider you to be a very bright young man. You know that. Any disagreement I have with you does not change my opinion.

I am old enough to know that some religious people persecute other people who do not share their 'convictions'. I've seen it too many times. Look at what is in the news today about the Amish man who are on trial for a hate crime of cutting off the beards and hair of women who disagreed with his pov.

Is it only persecution when it happens to religious people? But it becomes 'correction' when religious people do it to people who do not share their pov?

The people who are in power use an old trick. It is called the power of public opinion. They used it to crucify Jesus back in that day and it will be used today when people 'object' to do service to their country in 'time of need'. Persecution will not be a politically correct term in the future.

My very first pastor was a conscientious objector. He had to serve anyway. Although he did not have to pick up a gun and go into combat, he still had to do his tour of duty in Vietnam. The very likely hood of getting wiped out from enemy combat was still there.

Service will not always be combat, but I doubt that sons and daughters will be allowed to stay in their hometown area.

My good friend has a divorced daughter with two little children. She was unable to obtain a decent job to support herself and her children so she went into service for a steady income. They shipped her to Afghanistan. Her parents are keeping her children while she is gone. She may or may not survive.

There are so many situations and variables in life that Pentecostal people do not take in account. It is so totally foreign to them that some women must do what they have to do to take care of their family.