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10-17-2012, 06:08 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
I don't know about the rest of you, but I tend to believe that if it was years and years of affairs that women would be coming out about it and not staying silent. Who knows there may be some truth to some of the things that it is buried beneath the lies of some very angry people that were obviously at that church... But this sure sounds like a witchhunt to me.
All my point is is that I would be very careful and choose my words wisely... Because some people on this forum are walking very closely to the line of the seven things that the Scripture talks about that God hates...regardless of the truth of the matter.
Remember- no matter what happened. We are all sinners- we all fall- how can we judge who sin is worse? And if any of it is true thank God we serve a God of mercy, restoration and love!
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10-17-2012, 06:56 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by Hizzangel
I don't know about the rest of you, but I tend to believe that if it was years and years of affairs that women would be coming out about it and not staying silent. Who knows there may be some truth to some of the things that it is buried beneath the lies of some very angry people that were obviously at that church... But this sure sounds like a witchhunt to me.
All my point is is that I would be very careful and choose my words wisely... Because some people on this forum are walking very closely to the line of the seven things that the Scripture talks about that God hates...regardless of the truth of the matter.
Remember- no matter what happened. We are all sinners- we all fall- how can we judge who sin is worse? And if any of it is true thank God we serve a God of mercy, restoration and love!
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Sad, but this is the reason why people go slow passed a bad car accident.
Ponder this the next time you're in heavy traffic due to a bad wreck.
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10-17-2012, 07:43 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by Hizzangel
I don't know about the rest of you, but I tend to believe that if it was years and years of affairs that women would be coming out about it and not staying silent. Who knows there may be some truth to some of the things that it is buried beneath the lies of some very angry people that were obviously at that church... But this sure sounds like a witchhunt to me.
All my point is is that I would be very careful and choose my words wisely... Because some people on this forum are walking very closely to the line of the seven things that the Scripture talks about that God hates...regardless of the truth of the matter.
Remember- no matter what happened. We are all sinners- we all fall- how can we judge who sin is worse? And if any of it is true thank God we serve a God of mercy, restoration and love!
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You have no clue what you are talking about. That church and the church board loved and revered their pastor. There was no agenda to get rid of him. Everybody there was stunned and shocked at the situation.
There are details that have come out that are slightly different than the first report but only in details. The sin is still the same and perhaps even harder to understand. No details will be posted here unless they are publicly published elsewhere as formal accusations but the details don't really matter. What does is that it was a sexual moral failure / sin and accusations of misuse of church money.
From all accounts this is a strong church who are moving forward despite their shock and dismay at this failure in leadership.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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10-17-2012, 09:30 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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You have no clue what you are talking about. That church and the church board loved and revered their pastor. There was no agenda to get rid of him. Everybody there was stunned and shocked at the situation.
There are details that have come out that are slightly different than the first report but only in details. The sin is still the same and perhaps even harder to understand. No details will be posted here unless they are publicly published elsewhere as formal accusations but the details don't really matter. What does is that it was a sexual moral failure / sin and accusations of misuse of church money.
From all accounts this is a strong church who are moving forward despite their shock and dismay at this failure in leadership.
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Oh, don't be so sure...I know a lot more than one would presume.
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10-17-2012, 09:41 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Oh, don't be so sure...I know a lot more than one would presume.
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But, what could you know, since you don't know really what is true?
By the sound of it, your last post is mainly speculations which you have pondered.
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05-08-2016, 07:30 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Oh, don't be so sure...I know a lot more than one would presume.
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If you did you would not be here speculating ......Were you a member of TPC?
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10-17-2012, 09:53 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I tend to believe that if it was years and years of affairs that women would be coming out about it and not staying silent.
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what makes you say that?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-17-2012, 09:54 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by Hizzangel
I don't know about the rest of you, but I tend to believe that if it was years and years of affairs that women would be coming out about it and not staying silent. Who knows there may be some truth to some of the things that it is buried beneath the lies of some very angry people that were obviously at that church... But this sure sounds like a witchhunt to me.
All my point is is that I would be very careful and choose my words wisely... Because some people on this forum are walking very closely to the line of the seven things that the Scripture talks about that God hates...regardless of the truth of the matter.
Remember- no matter what happened. We are all sinners- we all fall- how can we judge who sin is worse? And if any of it is true thank God we serve a God of mercy, restoration and love!
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I am going to try to help you since it's obvious you cannot see how truly warped your line of thinking is.
You are more upset about the opinions of anonymous internet posters than you are the fact that a conservative Apostolic preacher allegedly had affairs with multiple women for years.
Are you really going to try to use scripture to defend this man?
Ever hear of the ten commandments?
Commandment #7 is "Thou shalt not commit adultery"
We won't even mention false witness or covetousness.
So if you're going to bring out things God hates, start here. But don't bludgeon the victims of this garbage with your reams of cut and paste theology.
No wonder the world wants nothing to do with Christianity.
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10-17-2012, 10:24 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by Charnock
I am going to try to help you since it's obvious you cannot see how truly warped your line of thinking is.
You are more upset about the opinions of anonymous internet posters than you are the fact that a conservative Apostolic preacher allegedly had affairs with multiple women for years.
Are you really going to try to use scripture to defend this man?
Ever hear of the ten commandments?
Commandment #7 is "Thou shalt not commit adultery"
We won't even mention false witness or covetousness.
So if you're going to bring out things God hates, start here. But don't bludgeon the victims of this garbage with your reams of cut and paste theology.
No wonder the world wants nothing to do with Christianity.
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To my knowledge, nothing had been publicly admitted.
Guess we will see where all this ends up when everything comes out.
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10-18-2012, 06:22 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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No wonder the world wants nothing to do with Christianity.
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Yeah, because of the bitter ex-(place whatever denomination) people who for whatever reason came against (place whatever denomination).
My brother, see you in ten years, I pray that your ecclesiastical evolution doesn't turn round and bite you back. More pitiful, more merciful, Jesus said for our love for one another we will be known? Brother, every man's burden is the heaviest, because our own perception is our own reality. Your blanket statements are not truth, just like a bigot who says all black people are criminals, or all Sicilians have family members who are in the Mafia. While there may be some who fit those descriptions not all fit those descriptions.
Brother, you had a bad experience, and it shows, but it was your own experience, and not everyone had the same experiences as you.
You may find a group were you all have similar bad experiences, sit around lick each others wounds, and bash the group you came out from.
My Brother, there are bad people everywhere, in every group and religion.
Just don't become the thing you hate. 
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