IN Senator, "God Intended Pregnant Rape Victim"

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I don't believe God would ever prompt evil; in this case, rape. However, He certainly could allow conception, and it's sad that so many people see that as "evil" or a curse rather than the blessing it could be.

Was God evil in hardening Pharoah's heart to the point that his first born would be killed?

He had to know what was happening, what He was allowing, or even what He was doing, right?

God is Sovereign.

[Jermyn Davidson]

The "Wrath" of God is never evil.
The "Chastisement" of God is never evil.
The "Will" of God is never evil.

God is Just. In giving a woman a miscarrying womb, in commanding the Israelite armies to anhillate their enemies, in forsaking His only begotten Son as He bled and died on a tree, in sending people strong delusions-- God is and will always be Just.


God is Sovereign and He is Just.
I am learning to surrender my hurts to the Sovereignty and Justice of God.
I am a work in progress.

Such is life. Our lives, our country, this hemisphere, this world-- these are all a work in God's Process. The things in life that we perceive to be unimaginably horrible, tragic, and evil are yet a part of God's Process, and thus God's Will.

Who will attempt to hold God accountable?
Who will accuse Him, His Processes and His Will as evil?
Who will judge the Almighty God?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Was God evil in hardening Pharoah's heart to the point that his first born would be killed?

He had to know what was happening, what He was allowing, or even what He was doing, right?

God is Sovereign.

I don't think we disagree here, JD.

God doesn't prompt evil; evil is something that is unjust, simplistically. God hardening Pharaoh's heart can be seen as just. God causing a man to rape a woman would be unjust/evil, assuming we are not talking about some sort of judgment befalling her.

I can't think of scenarios in the Bible where God was the cause of evil. Punishment for wrongdoing or disobedience or, in Pharaoh's case, enslaving and mistreating God's chosen people, is just; not evil.

Was it evil for God to punish Korah and his whole family? And Eliab's sons and their "little children" with them? The answer is that what God does is just; it is never evil, because God is sovereign. IMO, the only time God would CAUSE harm to come to a person would be for the purpose of judgment; that is not to be confused with allowing harm, which is the nature of humanity and God seems to rarely interfere with those things perpetrated by humans and their free will (to be evil).

I pretty much agree with you, except that I don't agree with any wording that says God commits evil. If God does something, by definition, it isn't evil. If God allows a woman to conceive from rape, or if He even causes her to conceive from rape, it is Him turning evil into good. It doesn't mean that He caused her to be raped for the purpose of conceiving. It may mean that He allowed conception to ease her pain. Unfortunately, the modern mindset doesn't allow recognizing an unplanned pregnancy in those terms, and that is tragic, IMO.

Saying that God doesn't commit or cause evil is not the same as saying God never allows or causes harm to befall a person. He has in the past and He may again, for various reasons that usually seem closely aligned with either testing a person or judgment.

Psalm 5:4 "For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee."

Psalm 18:30 "As for God, his way is perfect:...."

Psalm 145:17 "The Lord is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works."