The Marriage Contract

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by ILG

Let the churches be in charge of marriage. Those that will marry gays....whatever......those that won't will be the conservative churches....

I think that the part that is telling is that the man and wife is inferior in this 3-way contract. Even if they divorce, it does not nullify that contract, they only 'amend' that contract that is between the government, a man and his wife.

So...what might happen if the children are raised christian and the parents fall out of favor with the state if the state decides to restrict Christian teachings in the home?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

I think that the part that is telling is that the man and wife is inferior in this 3-way contract. Even if they divorce, it does not nullify that contract, they only 'amend' that contract that is between the government, a man and his wife.

So...what might happen if the children are raised christian and the parents fall out of favor with the state if the state decides to restrict Christian teachings in the home?

Well, we don't want that to be the case and the answer is scary. On the flip-side, there has to be some accountability for abusive parents.

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Originally Posted by ILG

Well, we don't want that to be the case and the answer is scary. On the flip-side, there has to be some accountability for abusive parents.

Sure. I agree with that...to an extent. There are people who abuse the system and call in lies if they have a disagreement with their neighbor. It is hard to make that call when a social worker has to come in and determine who is at fault.

My own daughter-in-law was abused, then exploited by the foster care family she lived with. Her biological mother says she is Christian, yet she dropped her daughter off to a mental hospital because she could not deal with her learning disability, then refused to come back and take her home.

She can think, reason, feel with her emotions and she can learn....it just takes her a while to grasp certain parts of the education process, but once she does..she's got it. She scored high on her reading comprehension test...so I know that there is a lot of intelligence there that nobody helped her to develop.

I am talking about what if the state decides to pass laws against bringing up your children in a religious atmosphere...such as christianity as in some countries around the world.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Sure. I agree with that...to an extent. There are people who abuse the system and call in lies if they have a disagreement with their neighbor. It is hard to make that call when a social worker has to come in and determine who is at fault.

My own daughter-in-law was abused, then exploited by the foster care family she lived with. Her biological mother says she is Christian, yet she dropped her daughter off to a mental hospital because she could not deal with her learning disability, then refused to come back and take her home.

She can think, reason, feel with her emotions and she can learn....it just takes her a while to grasp certain parts of the education process, but once she does..she's got it. She scored high on her reading comprehension test...so I know that there is a lot of intelligence there that nobody helped her to develop.

I am talking about what if the state decides to pass laws against bringing up your children in a religious atmosphere...such as christianity as in some countries around the world.

Yes, there are times I think leaving the kids with the parents is better than getting them into the foster system.....

I don't think the higher-ups are going to do away with "freedom of religion"....I think they will try and establish other forms of control without touching that. If they can just get people to agree to certain things......they can practice any religion they wish, because they will still be a part of the bigger "system" of control...

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Originally Posted by ILG

Yes, there are times I think leaving the kids with the parents is better than getting them into the foster system.....

I don't think the higher-ups are going to do away with "freedom of religion"....I think they will try and establish other forms of control without touching that. If they can just get people to agree to certain things......they can practice any religion they wish, because they will still be a part of the bigger "system" of control...

Well...Rome did not care about what religion the people worshipped when the ruled the known world. They called the Jews religion "superstition".

You got to admit though that the government has been taking way the free expression of Christianity. Namely, no prayer in school, no 10 Commandments in the Alabama Captial courthouse rotunda, no crosses...Obama had a cross covered up in one of his speeches after his first reelection. A school district in the next county here received a letter from a well-funded organization demanding that they cease and desist having prayer before the football games. The school acquiesced immediately. There are many examples. So I just have to wonder.

I remember my youngest son's 8th grade graduation those many years ago. We had a female black principle who was a believer. She got up on the stage before commencement and prayed a long prayer and ended it in Jesus Name. I was proud of her. Yet, some of the parents, who were christian beliefs were appalled that she bucked the 'no prayer' rule.

I can worship Christ in my car, my home, standing in line getting my car tag, while grocery shopping etc.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Well...Rome did not care about what religion the people worshipped when the ruled the known world. They called the Jews religion "superstition".

You got to admit though that the government has been taking way the free expression of Christianity. Namely, no prayer in school, no 10 Commandments in the Alabama Captial courthouse rotunda, no crosses...Obama had a cross covered up in one of his speeches after his first reelection. There are many examples. So I just have to wonder.

I can worship Christ in my car, my home, standing in line getting my car tag etc.

Yeah, I think they just want the public arena to be neutral. I could be wrong, but that is how I view it.