Can a true Christian embrace Che Guevarra ?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

i don't advocate violence but murder is in the eye of the beholder. the british consider george washington a murderer. southeners consider lincoln a murderer. iraqis consider bush a murderer. the japanese consider truman a murderer who did drop an atomic bomb. whose view is valid? i don't consider che a murderer. it's called ethnocentricity, an ethnic point of view.

to this day I have never heard a Brit or a Southerner refer to either as a murderer

But let's cut the obfuscation...I don't have an avatar of Bush or Truman. I don't follow either nor advocate either. I advocate Jesus Christ...

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

to this day I have never heard a Brit or a Southerner refer to either as a murderer

But let's cut the obfuscation...I don't have an avatar of Bush or Truman. I don't follow either nor advocate either. I advocate Jesus Christ...

I'm a Southron. While Lincoln may not have been a murderer himself, he certainly was responsible for a whole lot of raping, pillaging, burning, and murdering.

Lincoln was a first-class dictator.

Now, Sherman? Yeah, those who directly authorize murder are murderers, in my book.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I'm a Southron. While Lincoln may not have been a murderer himself, he certainly was responsible for a whole lot of raping, pillaging, burning, and murdering.

Lincoln was a first-class dictator.

Now, Sherman? Yeah, those who directly authorize murder are murderers, in my book.

Lincoln a dictator? ROFL......

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Lincoln a dictator? ROFL......

Lincoln did act pretty dictatorial at times.

The "Civil War" and the "preservation of the union" pretty well destroyed the 10th amendment.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Lincoln a dictator? ROFL......

Obviously you disagree. Let me school you some learnin's 'bout ole 'honest Abe'...

"Even Lincoln's idolaters, like historian Clinton Rossiter, author of the book, Constitutional Dictatorship, referred to him as a "great dictator" who had an "amazing disregard for the Constitution . . . that was considered by nobody as legal."

"The Dictator Lincoln invaded the South without the consent of Congress, as called for in the Constitution; declared martial law; blockaded Southern ports without a declaration of war, as required by the Constitution; illegally suspended the writ of habeas corpus; imprisoned without trial thousands of Northern anti-war protesters, including hundreds of newspaper editors and owners; censored all newspaper and telegraph communication; nationalized the railroads; created three new states without the consent of the citizens of those states in order to artificially inflate the Republican Party's electoral vote; ordered Federal troops to interfere with Northern elections to assure Republican Party victories; deported Ohio Congressman Clement L. Vallandigham for opposing his domestic policies (especially protectionist tariffs and income taxation) on the floor of the House of Representatives; confiscated private property, including firearms, in violation of the Second Amendment; and effectively gutted the Tenth and Ninth Amendments as well."

"In his memoirs Sherman wrote that when he met with Lincoln after his March to the Sea was completed, Lincoln was eager to hear the stories of how thousands of Southern civilians, mostly women, children, and old men, were plundered, sometimes murdered, and rendered homeless. Lincoln, according to Sherman, laughed almost uncontrollably at the stories. Even Sherman biographer Lee Kennett, who writes very favorably of the general, concluded that had the Confederates won the war, they would have been "justified in stringing up President Lincoln and the entire Union high command for violation of the laws of war, specifically for waging war against noncombatants."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo12.html

There's more at the link.

Not everybody has imbibed the Lincoln propaganda, Prax. He was a dictator, pure and simple.

In fact, not much different from the one we have now, who BTW likes to think of himself as the 21st century Lincoln...