Modesty Myth

[tv1a]

The author pointed out modesty was necessary. The author says the focus is wrong. The focus should be on the men lookong at the women.

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Agreed. The specifics of what comprises "modesty" or "modest apparel" can be discussed and debated, but the idea that women should be modest shouldn't be up for debate; it's purely biblical.

IF there is a myth about modesty, it might be this: If all women are modest, men will be lust-free. Perhaps that's what the author intended to say, but she didn't actually bring out that point.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by tv1a

The author pointed out modesty was necessary. The author says the focus is wrong. The focus should be on the men lookong at the women.

I disagree that it's either/or. Men have their struggles; women have theirs. Male attention can be intoxicating for some women, and they can take pleasure in dressing in ways that attract that attention and then shaming men when they stumble. That's not only disrespectful, it's immoral.

This is a two-sided topic. Men are not the only ones at fault here.

[endtimer]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I disagree that it's either/or. Men have their struggles; women have theirs. Male attention can be intoxicating for some women, and they can take pleasure in dressing in ways that attract that attention and then shaming men when they stumble. That's not only disrespectful, it's immoral.

This is a two-sided topic. Men are not the only ones at fault here.

Good post(s). Well said.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I disagree that it's either/or. Men have their struggles; women have theirs. Male attention can be intoxicating for some women, and they can take pleasure in dressing in ways that attract that attention and then shaming men when they stumble. That's not only disrespectful, it's immoral.

This is a two-sided topic. Men are not the only ones at fault here.

Tell it!!

[Praxeas]

I wonder how many people would walk around a pack of pit bulls with a steak hanging from their necks. It takes two to tango. Women have what men want biologically. When it's presented it's hard not to look

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I wonder how many people would walk around a pack of pit bulls with a steak hanging from their necks. It takes two to tango. Women have what men want biologically. When it's presented it's hard not to look

I know someone who went through counseling for porn addiction. The counselor told him to make a list of everything that drew his eye going to and from work, i.e. billboards, etc. His purpose was to enlist him on helping to end this travesty in our society.

As much as we want to talk about a woman's involvement in a man's lust (which has some degree of merit), what about men who pass things to their friends via computer and cell phone?

I say that men are also at fault for encouraging and sometimes having the mindset that it's just boy stuff and no big deal. They could be ruining another man's life (a wife's life as well) on his struggle with porn. Men need to take some responsibility here, IMO.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I know someone who went through counseling for porn addiction. The counselor told him to make a list of everything that drew his eye going to and from work, i.e. billboards, etc. His purpose was to enlist him on helping to end this travesty in our society.

As much as we want to talk about a woman's involvement in a man's lust (which has some degree of merit), what about men who pass things to their friends via computer and cell phone?

I say that men are also at fault for encouraging and sometimes having the mindset that it's just boy stuff and no big deal. They could be ruining another man's life (a wife's life as well) on his struggle with porn. Men need to take some responsibility here, IMO.

Like I said, it takes two to tango

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I know someone who went through counseling for porn addiction. The counselor told him to make a list of everything that drew his eye going to and from work, i.e. billboards, etc. His purpose was to enlist him on helping to end this travesty in our society.

As much as we want to talk about a woman's involvement in a man's lust (which has some degree of merit), what about men who pass things to their friends via computer and cell phone?

I say that men are also at fault for encouraging and sometimes having the mindset that it's just boy stuff and no big deal. They could be ruining another man's life (a wife's life as well) on his struggle with porn. Men need to take some responsibility here, IMO.

I think both genders are to blame.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I think both genders are to blame.

I certainly agree. Just rounding out the discussion by not leaving anything out. I've seen a lot of "locker room" or "horseplay" stuff where men don't think it's a big deal or damaging to another. It is a big deal. Not all men will admit their porn addiction and other men need to stop feeding it.