All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

seekerman · #1 12-19-2012, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Isaiah is very explicit on who the Father is. That is why the angel came to Mary to confirm "the Lord God shall give unto him the house of David" and why the first thing the angel told Joseph in his dream, "Joseph, thou son of David." As Christ, he was the son of God, as a man, he was the son of David. No wonder the Pharisees wanted him dead. They didn't understand Him and were totally offended by Him.

Jesus is very explicit who the Father is. The Father is His Father. His Father is in Him, He is in His Father. If we were to believe oneness pentecostals, Jesus was confused as to who He was.

Joh 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
Joh 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
Joh 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

Pressing-On · #2 12-19-2012, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seekerman

Jesus is very explicit who the Father is. The Father is His Father. His Father is in Him, He is in His Father. If we were to believe oneness pentecostals, Jesus was confused as to who He was.

Joh 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
Joh 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
Joh 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

You better read Isaiah 9:6 again and see if He is preaching to you.

deafdriscoll · #3 12-19-2012, 02:18 PM

I can not believe the spiritual immaturity of such a statement as this post title.

1. jesus said all who confess me as their savior will be saved.
2. jesus said that only the father knows certain things, such as; who goes to heaven, when the return of christ will be.
3. jesus left us to go to heaven and the Holy spirit came here to be with us.

one God- 3 persons.