All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I am happy you was filled with the Spirit however until your sins were remitted in water baptism in Jesus Name if you would have died you would have been lost. Is that direct enough.

Yet another preacher who rejects the sufficiency of the blood of the Lamb of God. And this yahoo thinks he some sort of head of some sort of 'church'? Heaven help us.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Yet another preacher who rejects the sufficiency of the blood of the Lamb of God. And this yahoo thinks he some sort of head of some sort of 'church'? Heaven help us.

And Moses thought he was the leader of the church in the wilderness...
Baptism is for the remission/forgiveness of sins period.

Most who deny baptism seek refuge in the "sufficiency of the blood". Then state something similar to the blood being shed for all yet can't seem to see that just because Christ shed His blood for the whole world does not mean the whole world is saved. A person must repent and be baptized in Jesus name for the remission/forgiveness of sins. Then they receive the Holy Ghost but not necessarily in that order. A person must be born again.

The irony here is the fighting against something Christ commanded. Sooo... They seek refuge in Christ while denying the commands of Christ. The apostle John had some strong words for this mindset:
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Pliny

And Moses thought he was the leader of the church in the wilderness...
Baptism is for the remission/forgiveness of sins period.

Most who deny baptism seek refuge in the "sufficiency of the blood". Then state something similar to the blood being shed for all yet can't seem to see that just because Christ shed His blood for the whole world does not mean the whole world is saved. A person must repent and be baptized in Jesus name for the remission/forgiveness of sins. Then they receive the Holy Ghost but not necessarily in that order. A person must be born again.

The irony here is the fighting against something Christ commanded. Sooo... They seek refuge in Christ while denying the commands of Christ. The apostle John had some strong words for this mindset:
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

ONLY through His shed blood can a man have remission of sins and that takes place when the penitent is immersed in water having the Name of Jesus Christ invoked over him. Whe you reject that you reject the blood.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

ONLY through His shed blood can a man have remission of sins and that takes place when the penitent is immersed in water having the Name of Jesus Christ invoked over him. Whe you reject that you reject the blood.

Amen!

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

ONLY through His shed blood can a man have remission of sins and that takes place when the penitent is immersed in water having the Name of Jesus Christ invoked over him. Whe you reject that you reject the blood.

Pure hogwash. Nothing in scripture teaches such a thing. Bunk.

Even if you believed that, and I guess you do, you have a tremendous problem with reconciling that with the idea that a person who is redeemed by the blood is going to hell because they haven't spoken in tongues. Thus your dilemma in preaching the insufficiency of the blood of the Lamb message

Your theology is a perfect example of error birthing error which births even more error. And you claim you're the head of the church

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Pure hogwash. Nothing in scripture teaches such a thing. Bunk.

Even if you believed that, and I guess you do, you have a tremendous problem with reconciling that with the idea that a person who is redeemed by the blood is going to hell because they haven't spoken in tongues. Thus your dilemma in preaching the insufficiency of the blood of the Lamb message

Your theology is a perfect example of error birthing error which births even more error. And you claim you're the head of the church

Oh great one please tell us when remission of sins happens and how it happens.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Oh great one please tell us when remission of sins happens and how it happens.

The question is, however and whenever it happens, is it sufficient. You're attempting to take the focus from that issue.

And...please....I'm not THAT great.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by seekerman

The question is, however and whenever it happens, is it sufficient. You're attempting to take the focus from that issue.

And...please....I'm not THAT great.

Well... we agree on one thing...




Baptism is for the remission/forgiveness of sins. No two ways about it. You either agree or don't.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Pure hogwash. Nothing in scripture teaches such a thing. Bunk.

Even if you believed that, and I guess you do, you have a tremendous problem with reconciling that with the idea that a person who is redeemed by the blood is going to hell because they haven't spoken in tongues. Thus your dilemma in preaching the insufficiency of the blood of the Lamb message

Your theology is a perfect example of error birthing error which births even more error. And you claim you're the head of the church

I never claimed I was THE Head of THE Church either you can't read or you can't tell the truth I will allow the readers to decide.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I never claimed I was THE Head of THE Church either you can't read or you can't tell the truth I will allow the readers to decide.

There's not but ONE church, anything else is nothing but the works of men.