All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by rdp

Ummm, why add commentary when we can simply allow the text to speak for itself (novel idea huh'?)??

Yea'....I'm just "fully evading" alllll of that "textual substance" you've offered so far !

Are we reading the same thread here ?

Yes we are. And we're reading that you're not answering the question concerning the verse you posted. Alas, by now it becomes very plain that you're not. Scared of scripture, are ya?

[rdp]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Yes we are. And we're reading that you're not answering the question concerning the verse you posted. Alas, by now it becomes very plain that you're not. Scared of scripture, are ya?

Let's see, I've asked you numerous questions, offered textual-exegetical evidence of my position(s), carefully documented my sources....& all you've done is offer Red Herrings & smoke screens ??

Tell us, for the third time now, must a person *repent* to be saved, yes or no:__________?

And, all I did was post a biblical passage affirming water baptisms role in salvation. You are so busy frantically pacing up & down (because it counters your soteriology) that you have yet to understand that I am simply allowing the text to define itself & feel no need to improve upon God's Word.

It's quite liberating...Ought to try it sometime !

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by rdp

Let's see, I've asked you numerous questions, offered textual-exegetical evidence of my position(s), carefully documented my sources....& all you've done is offer Red Herrings & smoke screens ??

Tell us, for the third time now, must a person *repent* to be saved, yes or no:__________?

And, all I did was post a biblical passage affirming water baptisms role in salvation. You are so busy frantically pacing up & down (because it counters your soteriology) that you have yet to understand that I am simply allowing the text to define itself & feel no need to improve upon God's Word.

It's quite liberating...Ought to try it sometime !

Let's see, you posted a scripture about baptism saving but you don't want to face it, choosing instead of demanding yes or no answers in order to take the focus from your total failure to address the scripture you yourself posted. Evasion, evasion, evasion.

Does baptism save? Yes or no______________?

Not going to answer? Of course not....I'm not really surprised.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Let's see, you posted a scripture about baptism saving but you don't want to face it, choosing instead of demanding yes or no answers in order to take the focus from your total failure to address the scripture you yourself posted. Evasion, evasion, evasion.

Yes, there is certainly a sense in which baptism saves....Just like the Bible says! See how easy that was? It is not the ONLY means of salvation.

One has to repent & be water & Spirit baptized in Jesus' name to be saved. Ummm, that's what the Bible says!

Does baptism save? Yes or no______________?

Already answered this above.

Now, does a person have to repent to be saved? Yes or No:_____________?

Just can't answer it can ya'?

Not going to answer? Of course not....I'm not really surprised.

Umm, I'm the one who posted the verses, so how in the world you could surmise I would dodge the very passage I presented is as mind-boggling as how you can claim the "Trinity" is actually "biblical" ??

Now, purty please tell us if one has to *repent* to be saved:___________?

I mean, this is only the fourth time I've asked! LOL. Don't blame ya'....I'd dodge it too!