The Apostolic New Testament soon to be published!

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

On January or February of 2013, we will be publishing the Apostolic New Testament.

We begun the Old testament many years ago, but decided that doing the New Testament was more important, so after we publish the New Testament, we will return to complete the Old Testament. which I estimate will be finished by the year 2016 or 2017.

To get a sample copy of the Gospel of Matthew visit our web site
http://www.one-lord.org

It took us a few years to finish the New Testament
We have reviewed it many times and we believe it is about ready for publishing.
We are just doing some final minor revisions and corrections,
before we publish it.

I already see a mistake in it. " 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth"

That SHOULD read "28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,
I have given me all power in heaven and in earth" in order to harmonize with oneness theology.

I too wonder about the continued use of words like "spake" if they're doing a modern translation. I know "spake" sounds more religious and maybe rolls off the tongue a little better for the preacher, sounds like God speaking to some, but hey folks, it's 2012!!


Their Gospel of Matthew is closed with this comment....

"While the phrase (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) or similar wording does not exist in any other place of the New Testament or early apostolic
documents, for it is without a doubt a later creation."

That can quickly be shown to be error....

Tertullian, c. 200 AD (see here writes in On Baptism, Chapter XIII: "For the law of baptizing has been imposed, and the formula prescribed: "Go," He saith, "teach the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." and in Against Praxeas, chapter 2 says, "After His resurrection ..He commands them to baptize into the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost".

Hippolytus (170-236 AD says in Fragments: Part II.-Dogmatical and Historical.--Against the Heresy of One Noetus, "gave this charge to the disciples after He rose from the dead: Go ye and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."

Cyprian (200-258AD) in The Seventh Council of Carthage Under Cyprian says, And again, after His resurrection, sending His apostles, He gave them charge, saying, "All power is given unto me, in heaven and in earth. Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." and alludes to the same passage in other places as well.

Gregory Thaumaturgus (205-265 AD) in A Sectional Confession of Faith, XIII (see here says, "....the Lord sends forth His disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit?"

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by seekerman

I already see a mistake in it. " 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth"

That SHOULD read "28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,
I have given me all power in heaven and in earth" in order to harmonize with oneness theology.

Oneness does not teach the Son gave the Son all power

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Oneness does not teach the Son gave the Son all power

Where did I say that?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by seekerman

I already see a mistake in it. " 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth"

That SHOULD read "28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,
I have given me all power in heaven and in earth" in order to harmonize with oneness theology.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Oneness does not teach the Son gave the Son all power

Originally Posted by seekerman

Where did I say that?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by seekerman

I already see a mistake in it. " 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth"

That SHOULD read "28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,
I have given me all power in heaven and in earth" in order to harmonize with oneness theology.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Oneness does not teach the Son gave the Son all power

Originally Posted by seekerman

Where did I say that?

Originally Posted by Praxeas

?????

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by seekerman

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Well...seekerman, what you posted did give the impression that the Son gave the Son all power in heaven and earth...

Originally Posted by seekerman

I already see a mistake in it. " 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth"

That SHOULD read "28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,
I have given me all power in heaven and in earth" in order to harmonize with oneness theology.

Would you care to correct that?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Well...seekerman, what you posted did give the impression that the Son gave the Son all power in heaven and earth...


Would you care to correct that?

Nope, I did not say that the Son gave the Son all power in heaven in earth. Why keep suggesting that i did? Would you like to point out where I did and if I didn't, simply say that the accusation was in error?

Originally Posted by seekerman
I already see a mistake in it. " 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth"

That SHOULD read "28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,
I have given me all power in heaven and in earth" in order to harmonize with oneness theology.

Is the rewrite promoting error?

[FlamingZword]

Their Gospel of Matthew is closed with this comment....

"While the phrase (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) or similar wording does not exist in any other place of the New Testament or early apostolic
documents, for it is without a doubt a later creation."

That can quickly be shown to be error....

Tertullian, c. 200 AD (see here writes in On Baptism, Chapter XIII: "For the law of baptizing has been imposed, and the formula prescribed: "Go," He saith, "teach the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." and in Against Praxeas, chapter 2 says, "After His resurrection ..He commands them to baptize into the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost".

Hippolytus (170-236 AD says in Fragments: Part II.-Dogmatical and Historical.--Against the Heresy of One Noetus, "gave this charge to the disciples after He rose from the dead: Go ye and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."

Cyprian (200-258AD) in The Seventh Council of Carthage Under Cyprian says, And again, after His resurrection, sending His apostles, He gave them charge, saying, "All power is given unto me, in heaven and in earth. Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." and alludes to the same passage in other places as well.

Gregory Thaumaturgus (205-265 AD) in A Sectional Confession of Faith, XIII (see here says, "....the Lord sends forth His disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit?"

Well I will answer in two ways, first, who will we rather believe?

Tertullian or Peter who said
"Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

Hippolytus or Phillip who the scriptures record baptized in Jesus name Acts 8:16

Cyprian or Paul who baptized in Jesus name Acts 19:5

Gregory Thaumaturgus or Jesus who said in Luke 24:47
"And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."
Which perfectly matches with Acts 2:38

We also believe that many of those Post-apostolic quotations are either spurious or even lies by the proponents of the trinity.
It is well known that the Catholic church has resorted to fabrications and outright lies in order to advance the trinity.

When it comes down to it, we believe that Luke and Eusebius were right on using the name of Jesus.
A more detailed defence is written in Apendix A of "The Holy Apostolic New Testament".

Of course we expect people who have not even read our New Testament to attack it, but all men of God have been attacked and even killed by those who hate the truth.

[Praxeas]

So the "Apostolic" explanation that Jesus is the One name Of the Father, Son and Spirit is false? In reality, despite not one manuscript for evidence, it really reads "in my name"?

Also why keep the the outdated victorian english?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Well I will answer in two ways, first, who will we rather believe?

Tertullian or Peter who said
"Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

Hippolytus or Phillip who the scriptures record baptized in Jesus name Acts 8:16

Cyprian or Paul who baptized in Jesus name Acts 19:5

Gregory Thaumaturgus or Jesus who said in Luke 24:47
"And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."
Which perfectly matches with Acts 2:38

We also believe that many of those Post-apostolic quotations are either spurious or even lies by the proponents of the trinity.
It is well known that the Catholic church has resorted to fabrications and outright lies in order to advance the trinity.

When it comes down to it, we believe that Luke and Eusebius were right on using the name of Jesus.
A more detailed defence is written in Apendix A of "The Holy Apostolic New Testament".

Of course we expect people who have not even read our New Testament to attack it, but all men of God have been attacked and even killed by those who hate the truth.

You didn't read what I posted. Here it is again.....

"While the phrase (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) or similar wording does not exist in any other place of the New Testament or early apostolic
documents, for it is without a doubt a later creation."

That can quickly be shown to be error....

Tertullian, c. 200 AD (see here writes in On Baptism, Chapter XIII: "For the law of baptizing has been imposed, and the formula prescribed: "Go," He saith, "teach the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." and in Against Praxeas, chapter 2 says, "After His resurrection ..He commands them to baptize into the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost".

Hippolytus (170-236 AD says in Fragments: Part II.-Dogmatical and Historical.--Against the Heresy of One Noetus, "gave this charge to the disciples after He rose from the dead: Go ye and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."

Cyprian (200-258AD) in The Seventh Council of Carthage Under Cyprian says, And again, after His resurrection, sending His apostles, He gave them charge, saying, "All power is given unto me, in heaven and in earth. Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." and alludes to the same passage in other places as well.

Gregory Thaumaturgus (205-265 AD) in A Sectional Confession of Faith, XIII (see here says, "....the Lord sends forth His disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit?"

Do you see the "early apostolic documents"?