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[trialedbyfire]

Lord now they'll have a reason to think we're all crazy!

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Originally Posted by seekerman

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Well...seekerman, what you posted did give the impression that the Son gave the Son all power in heaven and earth...

Originally Posted by seekerman

I already see a mistake in it. " 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth"

That SHOULD read "28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,
I have given me all power in heaven and in earth" in order to harmonize with oneness theology.

Would you care to correct that?

[FlamingZword]

Their Gospel of Matthew is closed with this comment....

"While the phrase (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) or similar wording does not exist in any other place of the New Testament or early apostolic
documents, for it is without a doubt a later creation."

That can quickly be shown to be error....

Tertullian, c. 200 AD (see here writes in On Baptism, Chapter XIII: "For the law of baptizing has been imposed, and the formula prescribed: "Go," He saith, "teach the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." and in Against Praxeas, chapter 2 says, "After His resurrection ..He commands them to baptize into the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost".

Hippolytus (170-236 AD says in Fragments: Part II.-Dogmatical and Historical.--Against the Heresy of One Noetus, "gave this charge to the disciples after He rose from the dead: Go ye and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."

Cyprian (200-258AD) in The Seventh Council of Carthage Under Cyprian says, And again, after His resurrection, sending His apostles, He gave them charge, saying, "All power is given unto me, in heaven and in earth. Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." and alludes to the same passage in other places as well.

Gregory Thaumaturgus (205-265 AD) in A Sectional Confession of Faith, XIII (see here says, "....the Lord sends forth His disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit?"

Well I will answer in two ways, first, who will we rather believe?

Tertullian or Peter who said
"Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

Hippolytus or Phillip who the scriptures record baptized in Jesus name Acts 8:16

Cyprian or Paul who baptized in Jesus name Acts 19:5

Gregory Thaumaturgus or Jesus who said in Luke 24:47
"And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."
Which perfectly matches with Acts 2:38

We also believe that many of those Post-apostolic quotations are either spurious or even lies by the proponents of the trinity.
It is well known that the Catholic church has resorted to fabrications and outright lies in order to advance the trinity.

When it comes down to it, we believe that Luke and Eusebius were right on using the name of Jesus.
A more detailed defence is written in Apendix A of "The Holy Apostolic New Testament".

Of course we expect people who have not even read our New Testament to attack it, but all men of God have been attacked and even killed by those who hate the truth.

[Praxeas]

So the "Apostolic" explanation that Jesus is the One name Of the Father, Son and Spirit is false? In reality, despite not one manuscript for evidence, it really reads "in my name"?

Also why keep the the outdated victorian english?

[Michael The Disciple]

Apostolics cut their own throat when rejecting Matt. 28:19. The explanation given to us helped us to see the truth. Also it is a parallel scripture to Isaiah 9:6.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Well I will answer in two ways, first, who will we rather believe?

Tertullian or Peter who said
"Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

Hippolytus or Phillip who the scriptures record baptized in Jesus name Acts 8:16

Cyprian or Paul who baptized in Jesus name Acts 19:5

Gregory Thaumaturgus or Jesus who said in Luke 24:47
"And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."
Which perfectly matches with Acts 2:38

We also believe that many of those Post-apostolic quotations are either spurious or even lies by the proponents of the trinity.
It is well known that the Catholic church has resorted to fabrications and outright lies in order to advance the trinity.

When it comes down to it, we believe that Luke and Eusebius were right on using the name of Jesus.
A more detailed defence is written in Apendix A of "The Holy Apostolic New Testament".

Of course we expect people who have not even read our New Testament to attack it, but all men of God have been attacked and even killed by those who hate the truth.

You didn't read what I posted. Here it is again.....

"While the phrase (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) or similar wording does not exist in any other place of the New Testament or early apostolic
documents, for it is without a doubt a later creation."

That can quickly be shown to be error....

Tertullian, c. 200 AD (see here writes in On Baptism, Chapter XIII: "For the law of baptizing has been imposed, and the formula prescribed: "Go," He saith, "teach the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." and in Against Praxeas, chapter 2 says, "After His resurrection ..He commands them to baptize into the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost".

Hippolytus (170-236 AD says in Fragments: Part II.-Dogmatical and Historical.--Against the Heresy of One Noetus, "gave this charge to the disciples after He rose from the dead: Go ye and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."

Cyprian (200-258AD) in The Seventh Council of Carthage Under Cyprian says, And again, after His resurrection, sending His apostles, He gave them charge, saying, "All power is given unto me, in heaven and in earth. Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." and alludes to the same passage in other places as well.

Gregory Thaumaturgus (205-265 AD) in A Sectional Confession of Faith, XIII (see here says, "....the Lord sends forth His disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit?"

Do you see the "early apostolic documents"?

[tv1a]

James said it best. Belief in one God is no big deal. It just shows a person is as smart as devils. No one gets special super powers because they view God as one person.

Does the apostolic bible include charismatics and catholics? They have just as much right to the word apostolic as people who believe in manifesdtaions.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by seekerman

You didn't read what I posted. Here it is again.....

Do you see the "early apostolic documents"?

We have already encountered this argument before and we and other people consider those supossedly "Post- Apostolic Writtings" to be either spurious, lies or later alterations. It is well known that forgeries and alterations to ancient writtings were done quite frequently. so we are not impressed.

We are still on schedule for publication after a few more minor reviews.

If despite our best efforts to publish an error free version, we somehow do not quite succeed, we have always considered the posibility that we might publish a future Revised version, if we consider it necesary.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

We have already encountered this argument before and we and other people consider those supossedly "Post- Apostolic Writtings" to be either spurious, lies or later alterations. .

Your proof?

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire

Lord now they'll have a reason to think we're all crazy!

You could be right!