All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

seekerman · #1 12-24-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Now I see the problem. You're deaf

It's "Nothing BUT the blood of Jesus"

Nope, read the hundreds of posts here on the forum and you'll see that the oneness pentecostal version is "Nothing About The Blood Of Jesus".

Praxeas · #2 12-24-2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

Nope, read the hundreds of posts here on the forum and you'll see that the oneness pentecostal version is "Nothing About The Blood Of Jesus".

I don't see that. I am Oneness Pentecostal and there is no salvation without the shed blood of Jesus Christ

Originalist · #3 12-24-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't see that. I am Oneness Pentecostal and there is no salvation without the shed blood of Jesus Christ

Amen. It seems misrepresentation is law on this board.

Originalist · #4 12-25-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

Nope, read the hundreds of posts here on the forum and you'll see that the oneness pentecostal version is "Nothing About The Blood Of Jesus".

Nothing but the blood of Jesus could have redeemed and justified us, but nothing but the regenerating power of the indwelling Holy Spirit can SAVE us.

ROMANS 5:10.....For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his LIFE.

TITUS 3:5-8........5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,

6 whom he poured out (at Pentecost) on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior,

7 so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.

8 This is a trustworthy saying.

(Notice here in Titus 3 how Paul says that those who received the out-poured Holy Ghost are considered "justified by his grace". God doesn't let ignorant preachers saying the wrong words at baptism get in the way of saving a soul.)

EPHESIANS 1:7,13-14.....

7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace

13 And now you Gentiles have also heard the truth, the Good News that God saves you. And when you believed in Christ, he identified you as his own by giving you the Holy Spirit, whom he promised long ago.

14 The Spirit is God’s guarantee that he will give us the inheritance he promised and that he has purchased us to be his own people. He did this so we would praise and glorify him.

EPHESIANS 1:14 in the KJV.....Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

seekerman · #5 12-25-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist

Nothing but the blood of Jesus could have redeemed and justified us, but nothing but the regenerating power of the indwelling Holy Spirit can SAVE us.

ROMANS 5:10.....For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his LIFE.

TITUS 3:5-8........5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,

6 whom he poured out (at Pentecost) on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior,

7 so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.

8 This is a trustworthy saying.

(Notice here in Titus 3 how Paul says that those who received the out-poured Holy Ghost are considered "justified by his grace". God doesn't let ignorant preachers saying the wrong words at baptism get in the way of saving a soul.)

EPHESIANS 1:7,13-14.....

7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace

13 And now you Gentiles have also heard the truth, the Good News that God saves you. And when you believed in Christ, he identified you as his own by giving you the Holy Spirit, whom he promised long ago.

14 The Spirit is God’s guarantee that he will give us the inheritance he promised and that he has purchased us to be his own people. He did this so we would praise and glorify him.

EPHESIANS 1:14 in the KJV.....Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Great verses and I appreciate them but as happens every time, the blood is quickly pushed aside and the focus is once more on something other than the blood. Is it possible, and I really don't think it is, to actually discuss the blood of the Lamb of God with oneness pentecostals and the implications of that blood? Is is possible, and I don't think it is, to discuss when and how the blood of the Lamb of God is imputed/applied to an individual and do it without bringing the holy trinity of oneness pentecostalism (tongues, Godhead, standards) into the discussion. Can it be that only the blood of the Lamb of God is the focus of a discussion?

You said "Nothing but the blood of Jesus could have redeemed and justified us, but nothing but the regenerating power of the indwelling Holy Spirit can SAVE us. I'm reading that you are suggesting that redemption is by the blood of the Lamb alone with nothing else needed. Is that a correct assumption, I can't really tell from your post for you didn't really focus on the blood?

Honestly, I'm finding little in your post to change my view that the oneness pentecostal version of the song is "Nothing About The Blood Of Jesus".