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01-01-2013, 08:47 PM
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Re: If you are trinitarian.....
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One of the few Trinitarian writers that makes sense is Alyster McGrath. Most of them get off into this "relationship within God" blah blah. Man. God is complete within himself and did not need some relationship within himself to keep from being lonely, or to express love. Everything God does, he does out of his ABUNDANCE, not his lack or need of something. I don't think this sends these people to hell. It's just a poor explanation of the one true God.
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When the trinitarian sees Jesus he sees him as GOD the Son, (not the Son of God) that pre-exsisted BEFORE Betheleman.
Jesus then becomes "another Jesus".
THAT is a serious doctrinal error.
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01-01-2013, 09:12 PM
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Re: If you are trinitarian.....
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When the trinitarian sees Jesus he sees him as GOD the Son, (not the Son of God) that pre-exsisted BEFORE Betheleman.
Jesus then becomes "another Jesus".
THAT is a serious doctrinal error.
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When a trinitarian sees Jesus, he sees Jesus just as the oneness pentecostals see Him, the Lamb of God who was the sacrifice for them.
And yes, He preexisted before Bethlehem.
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01-01-2013, 09:28 PM
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Re: If you are trinitarian.....
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When a trinitarian sees Jesus, he sees Jesus just as the oneness pentecostals see Him, the Lamb of God who was the sacrifice for them.
And yes, He preexisted before Bethlehem.
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In a bodily form?
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01-01-2013, 09:29 PM
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Re: If you are trinitarian.....
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In a bodily form?
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Nope. Well, unless you include His appearing to Abraham, with the Hebrew children, ect.
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01-02-2013, 12:38 AM
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Re: If you are trinitarian.....
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Nope. Well, unless you include His appearing to Abraham, with the Hebrew children, ect.
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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01-02-2013, 02:26 PM
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Re: If you are trinitarian.....
No Jesus did not have a physical body before bethlehem though He did preexist bethlehem. There were times when he appeared on earth in a body these are called Christophanies or Theophanies. That these instances were not simply angels (although sometimes accompanied by angels) is seen by the fact that in a lot of cases the Being that appeared accepted worship.
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01-02-2013, 04:40 PM
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Re: If you are trinitarian.....
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No Jesus did not have a physical body before bethlehem though He did preexist bethlehem. There were times when he appeared on earth in a body these are called Christophanies or Theophanies. That these instances were not simply angels (although sometimes accompanied by angels) is seen by the fact that in a lot of cases the Being that appeared accepted worship.
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I agree....
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01-01-2013, 10:08 PM
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Re: If you are trinitarian.....
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When the trinitarian sees Jesus he sees him as GOD the Son, (not the Son of God) that pre-exsisted BEFORE Betheleman.
Jesus then becomes "another Jesus".
THAT is a serious doctrinal error.
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McGrath describes God in very oneness terms.
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