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Old 01-18-2013, 12:07 PM
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God loves TB and the people of Memphis affected by this. Only He can restore. We can give our opinions of how long it takes for restoration. We cannot speak for HIM.
TB thought restoration took about 6 months. Well ... that is what his standard of "punishment" was for anyone who was in any form of leadership when they did "wrong." Well ... for most anyway.

The fact that he would be used in any form or format at this point in time is utterly ridiculous and an insult to the people of TPC, and the Lord for that matter.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:42 PM
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TB thought restoration took about 6 months. Well ... that is what his standard of "punishment" was for anyone who was in any form of leadership when they did "wrong." Well ... for most anyway.

The fact that he would be used in any form or format at this point in time is utterly ridiculous and an insult to the people of TPC, and the Lord for that matter.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:41 PM
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TB thought restoration took about 6 months. Well ... that is what his standard of "punishment" was for anyone who was in any form of leadership when they did "wrong." Well ... for most anyway.

The fact that he would be used in any form or format at this point in time is utterly ridiculous and an insult to the people of TPC, and the Lord for that matter.
Looks like I was right about him having the special "Express" restoration. I remember when Jim Bakker fell Jimmy Swaggart made a big deal about telling reporters that their org., the AOG, and a process of restoration that Bakker should subject himself to.

Then of course a short time later when it was Swaggart himself being caught in adultery he left the AOG rather than submit to their restoration process.
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Looks like I was right about him having the special "Express" restoration. I remember when Jim Bakker fell Jimmy Swaggart made a big deal about telling reporters that their org., the AOG, and a process of restoration that Bakker should subject himself to.

Then of course a short time later when it was Swaggart himself being caught in adultery he left the AOG rather than submit to their restoration process.
So, what org is JS in now?
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So, what org is JS in now?
Probably the the same one TB belongs to now...pick a number, have a seat, wait to talk to a "counselor" and be instantly restored...
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Probably the the same one TB belongs to now...pick a number, have a seat, wait to talk to a "counselor" and be instantly restored...
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I thought maybe he had joined ICTSI. Its gaining in popularity, from what I've heard...guess not.
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So, what org is JS in now?
Most likely the Jimmy Swaggert Evangelistic Association or some such thing. Passing the torch on to his son Donny at some point.

Donny does not fit the mold of a well educated well spoken cruisematic. The first time I heard him on the radio a few years ago while passing through Arkansas I thought I had found a UPC or maybe even AMF preacher.

He was a bitter, negative sounding screamer. Turned out at the end it was JS's son! Certainly not as well spoken as his father. I think he must have become very bitter over his dad losing so much of the family "business" when he got caught. You can feel that bitterness in his preaching. He was slamming some fellow cruisematic preachers in the sermon I heard in a way I had only heard UPC / Old time pentecostal ones do previously.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Most likely the Jimmy Swaggert Evangelistic Association or some such thing. Passing the torch on to his son Donny at some point.

Donny does not fit the mold of a well educated well spoken cruisematic. The first time I heard him on the radio a few years ago while passing through Arkansas I thought I had found a UPC or maybe even AMF preacher.

He was a bitter, negative sounding screamer. Turned out at the end it was JS's son! Certainly not as well spoken as his father. I think he must have become very bitter over his dad losing so much of the family "business" when he got caught. You can feel that bitterness in his preaching. He was slamming some fellow cruisematic preachers in the sermon I heard in a way I had only heard UPC / Old time pentecostal ones do previously.
Dont ask why , but I used to listen to JS every sunday night , he used to have some really good sermons...until the breaking news of his big fall. Tend to stay clear of all tv "preachers". I have not heard about his son at all.
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