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Old 01-23-2013, 09:23 AM
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Re: Purpose of 'Daniel's Fast'...WHY?

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Actually, it's temporarily eating vegetarian or vegan, which is a step further than simply eating "healthy."

That would be a matter of opinion and relative and for the most part i am talking about the general mindset of how people are. IMO nothing special about the fast at all really.


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That said, I don't feel terribly motivated to justify myself to people who insult my intelligence. Maybe you could express your POV without thinking anyone who has a different view is stupid. Or at least, if you think it, refrain from saying it.

It is short term feel good. Most people don't eat healthy at all. Yet eating healthy is now a sacrifice to feel good before God as some great offering before him. I know this is relative but how about eat right in the first place and take control of your health then talk about fasting. How often I can point to this pathetic insanity in the culture. It's disgusting among the churches. Talk about a whole bunch of spiritual quackery people throw out after some fasts making claims of this and that. While yes I believe God does honor what people do in sacrifice for him. The whole of the heart for a 21 day fast to go back to the normal? sry not buying it and I see it every year.

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Old 01-23-2013, 11:53 AM
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That would be a matter of opinion and relative and for the most part i am talking about the general mindset of how people are. IMO nothing special about the fast at all really.





It is short term feel good. Most people don't eat healthy at all. Yet eating healthy is now a sacrifice to feel good before God as some great offering before him. I know this is relative but how about eat right in the first place and take control of your health then talk about fasting. How often I can point to this pathetic insanity in the culture. It's disgusting among the churches. Talk about a whole bunch of spiritual quackery people throw out after some fasts making claims of this and that. While yes I believe God does honor what people do in sacrifice for him. The whole of the heart for a 21 day fast to go back to the normal? sry not buying it and I see it every year.
Then why did Daniel do it? Daniel 10.
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Then why did Daniel do it? Daniel 10.
He didn't do it as a fast but more as what we would call a standard.
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He didn't do it as a fast but more as what we would call a standard.
Actually, I thought that, too, (although that didn't cause me to question the validity of the fast) until I read the passage that bishoph posted from Daniel 10. Daniel actually DID fast for 21 days--and this is what he did:

2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.

3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.


3 weeks. Why would he specify three weeks of no pleasant bread, no meat and no wine if that was how he was already eating?
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"neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled"

Does this mean that one is not to bathe or wear deodorant during the fast...three weeks in this case?
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"neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled"

Does this mean that one is not to bathe or wear deodorant during the fast...three weeks in this case?
In the NIV it says he didn't use "lotions", so it's possible that it means no perfumes or anything that smells good or feels pleasant. Considering the Jewish laws about cleanliness, I would highly doubt it means not to bathe. It's possible though, if the goal was to abase himself or to illustrate his sadness.
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