Did God have a choice?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by crakjak

You have interpreted "eternal judgment" as the traditional literal fire of hell. The literal rendering of these words is "judgment eonian", or an age of judgment, which I agree with. scripture4all.org/onlineinterliner/Greek_index.htm

BTW: that is Hebrews 6:1-2.

Unbelievers will endure an age of judgment. ED has been so ingrained into Christianity, that there is no objectivity to the very idea that God, intends to literally burn, torture and torment most of his creation endlessly!!! To believe such a thing is insanity.

The soul that sins shall die, that is why Jesus died, that was the penality for sin, Jesus the sinless sacrifice undid Adam's transgression, God has reconcile all to Himself thru the blood of Christ. You are not saved because you believed, you believed because God had already dealt with your sins, by sending His son to reconcile the world to himself. While you were a sinner, Christ died for you, He is what the scriptures says the Savior of the whole world. (1 Tim. 4:10)

Crakjak, you take scripture & twist it & get the doctrine of universalism which is basically, from the devil.
You are trying to put a "holy" God & make him into your "mindsest."
I am not going to play ring a round the rosie doctrinal discussion with you as I know you have been around the block more than once & should know better.
The Bible is full of scriptures dealing with the fate of the wicked & sinners & it isn't temporary!

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Ron

Crakjak, you take scripture & twist it & get the doctrine of universalism which is basically, from the devil.
You are trying to put a "holy" God & make him into your "mindsest."
I am not going to play ring a round the rosie doctrinal discussion with you as I know you have been around the block more than once & should know better.
The Bible is full of scriptures dealing with the fate of the wicked & sinners & it isn't temporary!

Ron, what you refuse to acknowledge is simply your doctrine, your interpretation of the scriptures was not from the apostles or Jesus, it was twisted out by the Roman state. When the "church" was ruled by the Roman sword, to control and manipulate the masses. It is not the gospel of Jesus, it is the most horrible possible news, and is not worthy of an all powerful Creator. No one insisted that you respond to my original post, I am not a universalist, all will be judged, I simply believe Jesus accomplished what He claimed. He IS the Savior of the whole, if all are not eventually made right with the Creator then He made false claims, which I cannot accept. He is love, but if you don't understand right and do right His love turns to HATE???? Commands you to forgive 7 x 70, O yeah in a day, but He will not???? I will not apologize for thinking more highly of the Creator than the traditions of men.