Shouts

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Well, everyone can have an opinion, but I didn't start this thread to mock shouting.

Ron seemed to understand. We both shared stories of things we remembered.

No hidden agenda.

As for my answers to Deacon, yes, I think they are cultural - especially the one of the Mother of the church.

You talk about it as much as you do the hair fanciers, so I only assume it bugs you.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You talk about it as much as you do the hair fanciers, so I only assume it bugs you.

Well, there ya go. You know what they say about assuming.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Well, there ya go. You know what they say about assuming.

You already stated at one point that it did bug you, so there ya go...

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You already stated at one point that it did bug you, so there ya go...

Apparently, I bug you, so I'll bow out for now.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Apparently, I bug you, so I'll bow out for now.

Renda, You answered DB's question saying you didn't think it was Biblical. When you answer that you don't believe it was how they worshiped in the NT, you are in effect saying it is not Biblical. I don't know how we would determine the particulars of what they were actually doing in the NT. If they copied anything that David did as a way of expressing himself before God, then they danced. So, in my view, we can't emphatically say that they didn't worship in that way in the NT times. Jewish men were well known to dance together as part of worship.

I certainly didn't mean to offend you, although I did. I couldn't imagine wanting to take the side of some view that I have no way of knowing is truth. That is all I am saying.

[Steve Epley]

And some folks accuse cons of being uptight?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

And some folks accuse cons of being uptight?

Definitely not in church--that's for sure!!!

There are times when I find "quiet" or more traditional church a little refreshing or a nice change, but by and large I want church to be fun and lively.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You talk about it as much as you do the hair fanciers, so I only assume it bugs you.

Well watch a new born Christian, a former atheist get freaked out over some "super duper spiritual" woman act all weird and mystical and he doesn't come back, or watch a young adult daughter of a woman, another former Catholic, finally get her daughter to come to church and she comes for a month and then comes down to the altar and some foolish man gets all nutty around her and she doesn't come back----then it will bug you too.

These people invested ZERO ruses these folks, ZERO Bible studies, counseling, getting to know these folks---no time invested whatsoever, BUT they have the freedom to act a fool at church and not consider the damage they're doing. And then later the guy's wife gets her feeling hurt over some little silly thing that happened in the children's ministry and they leave with the whole family over it (they've since quit the other church the started attending because of offense) and so here we are losing a woman who was wide open and hungry---she attends another church down the road with her husband and kids now---we keep the dude who thinks he can act any old way at church, and then they up leave any way.

I've had enough of the attitude that says, "Well David danced before the Lord, so anything goes." You miss the point of that story and you have to ignore Paul's very black and white teaching on order in public worship. Is church for church people or is it to declare the Gospel and lead people to salvation?

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Well watch a new born Christian, a former atheist get freaked out over some "super duper spiritual" woman act all weird and mystical and he doesn't come back, or watch a young adult daughter of a woman, another former Catholic, finally get her daughter to come to church and she comes for a month and then comes down to the altar and some foolish man gets all nutty around her and she doesn't come back----then it will bug you too.

These people invested ZERO ruses these folks, ZERO Bible studies, counseling, getting to know these folks---no time invested whatsoever, BUT they have the freedom to act a fool at church and not consider the damage they're doing. And then later the guy's wife gets her feeling hurt over some little silly thing that happened in the children's ministry and they leave with the whole family over it (they've since quit the other church the started attending because of offense) and so here we are losing a woman who was wide open and hungry---she attends another church down the road with her husband and kids now---we keep the dude who thinks he can act any old way at church, and then they up leave any way.

I've had enough of the attitude that says, "Well David danced before the Lord, so anything goes." You miss the point of that story and you have to ignore Paul's very black and white teaching on order in public worship. Is church for church people or is it to declare the Gospel and lead people to salvation?

My wife had a lady she was witnessing to and finally she agreed to come to church with her. Well the Holy Ghost moved and people started rolling on the ground. This lady never stepped one foot back into that church again.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

My wife had a lady she was witnessing to and finally she agreed to come to church with her. Well the Holy Ghost moved and people started rolling on the ground. This lady never stepped one foot back into that church again.

I heard Bro. Grisham (sp) talk about bringing his nephew to church. He was worried about this old man that would do something, really loud, like "oooooooohhhhh!"

After the service he asked his nephew, rather hesitantly, because the old man did his part, how he liked the service.

The nephew's response: "I liked it!!!"

Grisham: "Really? What part did you like?"

Nephew: "I liked the part the old man did!"