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Old 05-21-2007, 03:01 PM
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She was responding directly to me. (And basing her response on an incorrect and misguided assumption at that.) By now I have become used to her anti- UPC posts. Just a little surprised at your quick suppport of her blanket statement that could be twisted 40 ways from Dallas to Shreveport.

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Old 05-21-2007, 03:03 PM
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Surprised?

Don't you sign the "affirmation from hell"?

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LOL! Indeed I do and I have no remorse in doing so. No different to me than getting a new drivers license every few years.
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Old 05-21-2007, 03:06 PM
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LOL! Indeed I do and I have no remorse in doing so. No different to me than getting a new drivers license every few years.


I would have ZERO problem signing it and as far as I know have never preached for a Brother that would have a problem signing it.
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LOL! Indeed I do and I have no remorse in doing so. No different to me than getting a new drivers license every few years.
I am not UPC and folks may even feel I am anti-UPC but the problem with the whole issue is 'strange' to me the AS has nothing in it than the original license
application did? They signed to get the license then fuss over the AS??? It is beyond me. Now I understand The Atlantic district did not have to that originally they took them as a group but the rest did.
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I am not UPC and folks may even feel I am anti-UPC but the problem with the whole issue is 'strange' to me the AS has nothing in it than the original license
application did? They signed to get the license then fuss over the AS??? It is beyond me. Now I understand The Atlantic district did not have to that originally they took them as a group but the rest did.
I'm glad you recognized the point about the Atlantic District.
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Old 05-21-2007, 03:22 PM
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I'm glad you recognized the point about the Atlantic District.
TB I honor you I would not sign something I did not believe no matter what it cost me. I do not have much respect for those who do. But in truth you have to acknowledge the AS only affirmed what the applicant claimed to believe when they signed the apt. Yours and those of the Atlantic district was different but as far as I know that was the only exception.
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Since Bro. Strange has decided to tell how ultra-con's strictness makes them go bad I will share(as the Charismatics say) a story. The place is Lansing, Ill. the church is a large Apostolic church where the pastor mocked folks who preached against television and YES they all wore rings. And they also locked the doors when they were having church and at certain times some of the men anf women were excused to go to the basement where they had orgies called 'love feasts.' They from time to time turn the lights off in the sanctuary and touch each other. The pastor summons women up and kissed them on the platform. Eventually couple after couple swapped companions in the church including the pastor and his wife and his son and his wife. Sold the church and took their commune to the Northwest. So this proves Apostolics who wear rings and have television will go into free love. When men become depraved it matters NOT what camp they are in.
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Since Bro. Strange has decided to tell how ultra-con's strictness makes them go bad I will share(as the Charismatics say) a story. The place is Lansing, Ill. the church is a large Apostolic church where the pastor mocked folks who preached against television and YES they all wore rings. And they also locked the doors when they were having church and at certain times some of the men anf women were excused to go to the basement where they had orgies called 'love feasts.' They from time to time turn the lights off in the sanctuary and touch each other. The pastor summons women up and kissed them on the platform. Eventually couple after couple swapped companions in the church including the pastor and his wife and his son and his wife. Sold the church and took their commune to the Northwest. So this proves Apostolics who wear rings and have television will go into free love. When men become depraved it matters NOT what camp they are in.

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Since Bro. Strange has decided to tell how ultra-con's strictness makes them go bad I will share(as the Charismatics say) a story. The place is Lansing, Ill. the church is a large Apostolic church where the pastor mocked folks who preached against television and YES they all wore rings. And they also locked the doors when they were having church and at certain times some of the men anf women were excused to go to the basement where they had orgies called 'love feasts.' They from time to time turn the lights off in the sanctuary and touch each other. The pastor summons women up and kissed them on the platform. Eventually couple after couple swapped companions in the church including the pastor and his wife and his son and his wife. Sold the church and took their commune to the Northwest. So this proves Apostolics who wear rings and have television will go into free love. When men become depraved it matters NOT what camp they are in.
It is true that when men become depraved it matters not what camp that they are in.

Psychologist will tell you that men will harp on their own weakness. They reveal it in the way they resist in the flesh rather than letting the Spirit live within them.

To continually harp on the women folk demanding what is unscriptural, making a minor in the Word of God a major, is telling. A fleshly walk is ultimately doomed to failure.

Did I ever tell you about the ultra con church that was suddenly taken over by a spirit one night and everyone got naked right in the church? They were jumping and shouting until the police wagons came and arrested them all, men and women alike. They got in the police vans still shouting and waving their bibles, though naked.

A lot of antecdotes can be told, though I can personally vouch for very few of them at all. Like the story that you told above, this one is just another anticdote. However, there are some that I am very personally aware of. Nevertheless, this is not my point at all. This is a distraction. My point is, a walk in the flesh by exalting the flesh in PRIDE is doomed for failure.
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Since Bro. Strange has decided to tell how ultra-con's strictness makes them go bad I will share(as the Charismatics say) a story. The place is Lansing, Ill. the church is a large Apostolic church where the pastor mocked folks who preached against television and YES they all wore rings. And they also locked the doors when they were having church and at certain times some of the men anf women were excused to go to the basement where they had orgies called 'love feasts.' They from time to time turn the lights off in the sanctuary and touch each other. The pastor summons women up and kissed them on the platform. Eventually couple after couple swapped companions in the church including the pastor and his wife and his son and his wife. Sold the church and took their commune to the Northwest. So this proves Apostolics who wear rings and have television will go into free love. When men become depraved it matters NOT what camp they are in.
I remember this happening as a kid raised in the Chicago area. I believe my father was presbyter of the section that this pastor was in! They had spritual spouses which they had human sex with!
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