Something interesting about gays.

StillStanding · #1 02-13-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Not true. With God all is possible.

I also believe there are some who DO make a choice, as they are attracted to both sexes. Of course, God can do anything! For some reason, for almost all, he chooses to do nothing. Some have even committed suicide when God chose not to change them. They wanted to change so bad, but they felt God chose to abandon them!

Azzan · #2 02-13-2013, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by StillStanding

I also believe there are some who DO make a choice, as they are attracted to both sexes. Of course, God can do anything! For some reason, for almost all, he chooses to do nothing. Some have even committed suicide when God chose not to change them. They wanted to change so bad, but they felt God chose to abandon them!

Been there, tried that.

Dordrecht · #3 02-13-2013, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by StillStanding

I also believe there are some who DO make a choice, as they are attracted to both sexes. Of course, God can do anything! For some reason, for almost all, he chooses to do nothing. Some have even committed suicide when God chose not to change them. They wanted to change so bad, but they felt God chose to abandon them!

They were wrong.
God did not abandon them.

They did not hear the true gospel
or did hear it and rejected it.

Everybody makes a choice.
You reject Christ or
accept Christ and believe He will do a miracle.

Azzan · #4 02-13-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dordrecht

They were wrong.
God did not abandon them.

They did not hear the true gospel
or did hear it and rejected it.

Everybody makes a choice.
You reject Christ or
accept Christ and believe He will do a miracle.

I sincerely hope that you are not as harsh in person as you come across online.

I waited and believed for a miracle from the time I was 11 until I was 30. It never came. I am 50 years old now now and guess what, it still hasn't came.
I've come to the conclusion that this is my cross to bear for the rest of my life.

Now I'm not saying God can't or won't perform a miracle on my behalf, it's just that I've come to accept that I will always have these desires. And I will have to continue to fight them every single day. It feels hopeless at times.

I don't expect anyone to really understand unless you have experienced what I have been through.

MissBrattified · #5 02-13-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Azzan

I sincerely hope that you are not as harsh in person as you come across online.

I waited and believed for a miracle from the time I was 11 until I was 30. It never came. I am 50 years old now now and guess what, it still hasn't came.
I've come to the conclusion that this is my cross to bear for the rest of my life.

Now I'm not saying God can't or won't perform a miracle on my behalf, it's just that I've come to accept that I will always have these desires. And I will have to continue to fight them every single day. It feels hopeless at times.

I don't expect anyone to really understand unless you have experienced what I have been through.

Azzan, I'm sincerely sorry for your struggle.

The answers obviously aren't as trite and easy as these online discussions make them seem.

Scripture does point to a way of escape...but not from the temptation itself; only from the sin that can result. I think that leaves all of us with some sort of struggle. Is there anyone who doesn't struggle against sin? It's a daily battle.

RandyWayne · #6 02-13-2013, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Azzan

I sincerely hope that you are not as harsh in person as you come across online.

I waited and believed for a miracle from the time I was 11 until I was 30. It never came. I am 50 years old now now and guess what, it still hasn't came.
I've come to the conclusion that this is my cross to bear for the rest of my life.

Now I'm not saying God can't or won't perform a miracle on my behalf, it's just that I've come to accept that I will always have these desires. And I will have to continue to fight them every single day. It feels hopeless at times.

I don't expect anyone to really understand unless you have experienced what I have been through.

Ya, there are those who believe that a good "prayin through!" at a Pentecostal alter solves ALL of life's little problems. The people who believe this are usually the first the abandon ship when their own little headache aren't immediately healed, and claim that life's minor trials is "great persecution from the DEVIL!".

MissBrattified · #7 02-13-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Ya, there are those who believe that a good "prayin through!" at a Pentecostal alter solves ALL of life's little problems. The people who believe this are usually the first the abandon ship when their own little headache aren't immediately healed, and claim that life's minor trials is "great persecution from the DEVIL!".

That kind of mindset doesn't fit in too well with Paul's lamenting about his own struggles with doing what he didn't want to do and not doing what he wanted to do. I really think our flesh is a lifelong struggle. That's why I need God's help...because without Him I think I would be an awful person. Seriously. I think there are some people who are nice--at least they seem nice--even though they aren't Christians, but I'm not one of them. I inherited that black sheep of the family bloodline, and sometimes I can feel it all the way down in my bones. Some people have an affinity for being *bad*, mischievous and ornery, and I sure can tell when I've neglected to let God have His say in my day. That little wild hair is what has kept me from wanting to ever get drunk or high; I would be afraid of what I would do without inhibitions.

llambert · #8 02-14-2013, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Azzan

I sincerely hope that you are not as harsh in person as you come across online.

I waited and believed for a miracle from the time I was 11 until I was 30. It never came. I am 50 years old now now and guess what, it still hasn't came.
I've come to the conclusion that this is my cross to bear for the rest of my life.

Now I'm not saying God can't or won't perform a miracle on my behalf, it's just that I've come to accept that I will always have these desires. And I will have to continue to fight them every single day. It feels hopeless at times.

I don't expect anyone to really understand unless you have experienced what I have been through.

Have you considered this ministry?

http://vimeo.com/25492604

http://www.lifeministry.org/

Azzan · #9 02-14-2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by llambert

Have you considered this ministry?

http://vimeo.com/25492604

http://www.lifeministry.org/

Never heard of it but will check it out. Thank you.

BrotherEastman · #10 02-14-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Azzan

I sincerely hope that you are not as harsh in person as you come across online.

I waited and believed for a miracle from the time I was 11 until I was 30. It never came. I am 50 years old now now and guess what, it still hasn't came.
I've come to the conclusion that this is my cross to bear for the rest of my life.

Now I'm not saying God can't or won't perform a miracle on my behalf, it's just that I've come to accept that I will always have these desires. And I will have to continue to fight them every single day. It feels hopeless at times.

I don't expect anyone to really understand unless you have experienced what I have been through.

I'm beginning to understand. I hate this flesh sometimes. lol