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02-13-2013, 08:26 PM
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Re: Something interesting about gays.
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The marriage bed is guilt-free.
The body of the wife belongs to the husband and the body of the husband belongs to the wife.
If x, y, and z are pleasing to your husband or wife, you should aim to please your husband or wife.
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02-13-2013, 08:59 PM
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Re: Something interesting about gays.
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02-13-2013, 09:10 PM
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Re: Something interesting about gays.
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They were wrong.
God did not abandon them.
They did not hear the true gospel
or did hear it and rejected it.
Everybody makes a choice.
You reject Christ or
accept Christ and believe He will do a miracle.
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I sincerely hope that you are not as harsh in person as you come across online.
I waited and believed for a miracle from the time I was 11 until I was 30. It never came. I am 50 years old now now and guess what, it still hasn't came.
I've come to the conclusion that this is my cross to bear for the rest of my life.
Now I'm not saying God can't or won't perform a miracle on my behalf, it's just that I've come to accept that I will always have these desires. And I will have to continue to fight them every single day. It feels hopeless at times.
I don't expect anyone to really understand unless you have experienced what I have been through.
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02-13-2013, 10:17 PM
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Re: Something interesting about gays.
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I sincerely hope that you are not as harsh in person as you come across online.
I waited and believed for a miracle from the time I was 11 until I was 30. It never came. I am 50 years old now now and guess what, it still hasn't came.
I've come to the conclusion that this is my cross to bear for the rest of my life.
Now I'm not saying God can't or won't perform a miracle on my behalf, it's just that I've come to accept that I will always have these desires. And I will have to continue to fight them every single day. It feels hopeless at times.
I don't expect anyone to really understand unless you have experienced what I have been through.
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Azzan, I'm sincerely sorry for your struggle.  The answers obviously aren't as trite and easy as these online discussions make them seem.
Scripture does point to a way of escape...but not from the temptation itself; only from the sin that can result. I think that leaves all of us with some sort of struggle. Is there anyone who doesn't struggle against sin? It's a daily battle.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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02-13-2013, 10:28 PM
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Re: Something interesting about gays.
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Originally Posted by Azzan
I sincerely hope that you are not as harsh in person as you come across online.
I waited and believed for a miracle from the time I was 11 until I was 30. It never came. I am 50 years old now now and guess what, it still hasn't came.
I've come to the conclusion that this is my cross to bear for the rest of my life.
Now I'm not saying God can't or won't perform a miracle on my behalf, it's just that I've come to accept that I will always have these desires. And I will have to continue to fight them every single day. It feels hopeless at times.
I don't expect anyone to really understand unless you have experienced what I have been through.
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Ya, there are those who believe that a good "prayin through!" at a Pentecostal alter solves ALL of life's little problems. The people who believe this are usually the first the abandon ship when their own little headache aren't immediately healed, and claim that life's minor trials is "great persecution from the DEVIL!".
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02-13-2013, 10:38 PM
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Re: Something interesting about gays.
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Ya, there are those who believe that a good "prayin through!" at a Pentecostal alter solves ALL of life's little problems. The people who believe this are usually the first the abandon ship when their own little headache aren't immediately healed, and claim that life's minor trials is "great persecution from the DEVIL!".
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That kind of mindset doesn't fit in too well with Paul's lamenting about his own struggles with doing what he didn't want to do and not doing what he wanted to do. I really think our flesh is a lifelong struggle. That's why I need God's help...because without Him I think I would be an awful person. Seriously. I think there are some people who are nice--at least they seem nice--even though they aren't Christians, but I'm not one of them. I inherited that black sheep of the family bloodline, and sometimes I can feel it all the way down in my bones. Some people have an affinity for being *bad*, mischievous and ornery, and I sure can tell when I've neglected to let God have His say in my day. That little wild hair is what has kept me from wanting to ever get drunk or high; I would be afraid of what I would do without inhibitions.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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02-13-2013, 11:15 PM
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Re: Something interesting about gays.
God can and does remove a persons sinful nature. Romans 7 should always be read along With Romans 8. Romans 7 is Paul with carnal nature Romans 8 Paul freed from carnal nature.
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02-13-2013, 11:47 PM
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Re: Something interesting about gays.
Amazing......simply amazing......I have found out a lot of things on AFF.....now another supposed truth of God's Word has been debunked.....
(2Co 5:17) Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
SMH.....wow.... I am devastated.....just when I thought I could be delivered from sin and my past.......I find out that I am doomed to stay the way I was born until I leave this world.
Rubbish......y'all keep believing in a weak God/gospel, I'll keep believing in a God that doesn't just teach me to cope, but transforms my life each and every day.....until the day when I shall be like him for I shall see him as he is.
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02-14-2013, 06:05 AM
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Re: Something interesting about gays.
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Originally Posted by bishoph
Amazing......simply amazing......I have found out a lot of things on AFF.....now another supposed truth of God's Word has been debunked.....
(2Co 5:17) Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
SMH.....wow.... I am devastated.....just when I thought I could be delivered from sin and my past.......I find out that I am doomed to stay the way I was born until I leave this world.
Rubbish......y'all keep believing in a weak God/gospel, I'll keep believing in a God that doesn't just teach me to cope, but transforms my life each and every day.....until the day when I shall be like him for I shall see him as he is.
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Sir, you don't know me from Adam. I was born and raised in the UPC and am 3rd generation. I am a preacher's kid. I have seen signs and wonders, I have seen healings, I know what God can do.
From the time I was 11, I have prayed, fasted, asked for prayer, have had hands laid on me, been counseled, etc., etc., you name it, I have done it. But to date, I have not seen my miracle.
As I stated before, I do believe God can deliver but, he has, for whatever reason, chosen to not do so. And so I live with it. If you call that a weak God/gospel so be it.
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02-14-2013, 06:14 AM
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Re: Something interesting about gays.
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Originally Posted by Azzan
I sincerely hope that you are not as harsh in person as you come across online.
I waited and believed for a miracle from the time I was 11 until I was 30. It never came. I am 50 years old now now and guess what, it still hasn't came.
I've come to the conclusion that this is my cross to bear for the rest of my life.
Now I'm not saying God can't or won't perform a miracle on my behalf, it's just that I've come to accept that I will always have these desires. And I will have to continue to fight them every single day. It feels hopeless at times.
I don't expect anyone to really understand unless you have experienced what I have been through.
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