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Re: Witnessing Tools for Evolutionist
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I wasnt embracing anything. I'll repeat it. This atheist friend of Supertone needs God. He wants to know how to apprach a person who denies there is a God because he believes in evolution.
My responce is evolution has nothing to do with whether or not God exists. God could have created through evolution. Its a matter of eliminating his excuse.
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But, you said that God COULD have created evolution. That means you embrace that line to some degree. I'm just surprised at your statement.
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02-20-2013, 02:47 PM
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Re: Witnessing Tools for Evolutionist
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But, you said that God COULD have created evolution. That means you embrace that line to some degree. I'm just surprised at your statement.
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No it means God COULD have. It means his excuse is invalid. You guys are forgetting what the topic is and havent really provided supertone with some god tools to help reach this person. Im really surprised you guys think God is incapable.
You realize how improbable evolution is? How could it have happened without supernatural intervention? Thats how you get the guy to start rationalizing evolution does not prove there is no God
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02-20-2013, 02:51 PM
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Re: Witnessing Tools for Evolutionist
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No it means God COULD have. It means his excuse is invalid. You guys are forgetting what the topic is and havent really provided supertone with some god tools to help reach this person. Im really surprised you guys think God is incapable.
You realize how improbable evolution is? How could it have happened without supernatural intervention? Thats how you get the guy to start rationalizing evolution does not prove there is no God
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My video begins with supernatural intervention. I think it was totally apropos.
I wouldn't begin a conversation with God COULD have when I didn't believe it in the first place. It just seems confusing. Why don't you provide something better for the argument, because you lost me at "could have".
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02-20-2013, 02:56 PM
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Re: Witnessing Tools for Evolutionist
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My video begins with supernatural intervention. I think it was totally apropos.
I wouldn't begin a conversation with God COULD have when I didn't believe it in the first place. It just seems confusing. Why don't you provide something better for the argument, because you lost me at "could have".
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I provided what I believe IS the best arguement for that atheist. It wasnt for you. But if Supertone can get that Dr to watch a DVD go for it.
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-20-2013, 02:58 PM
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Re: Witnessing Tools for Evolutionist
And I do believe God COULD HAVE. God can do anything. If He wanted He could turn a bird into a dog just as He can turn a stick into a snake. God's ability is not limited by your unbelief
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-20-2013, 03:01 PM
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Re: Witnessing Tools for Evolutionist
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And I do believe God COULD HAVE. God can do anything. If He wanted He could turn a bird into a dog just as He can turn a stick into a snake. God's ability is not limited by your unbelief
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But He didn't and He never will. That is how I see it. It's not a logical argument for me.
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02-20-2013, 03:02 PM
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Re: Witnessing Tools for Evolutionist
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But He didn't and He never will. That is how I see it. It's not a logical argument for me.
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Tell Supertone not me. Please give Supertone the method to reach that person
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
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- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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Re: Witnessing Tools for Evolutionist
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I provided what I believe IS the best arguement for that atheist. It wasnt for you. But if Supertone can get that Dr to watch a DVD go for it.
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I don't know of any but why would evolution preclude creation from being true? All Creation really says is that God created. He could have created via evolution
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I went back to re-read your first comment. I do agree that all creation does say is that God created, but if I was defending creation, I just wouldn't want to start out with God "could have" without saying, but He didn't and here is why.
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Re: Witnessing Tools for Evolutionist
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I went back to re-read your first comment. I do agree that all creation does say is that God created, but if I was defending creation, I just wouldn't want to start out with God "could have" without saying, but He didn't and here is why.
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Tell Supertone not me. Tell him how to witness to that atheist
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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