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Old 02-20-2013, 10:56 PM
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No...I was saying or what I said was broiders and plaiting are BAD KJV translations. I didn't say diddly squat about your pastors wife or her hairstyle...Wooooo boy...In the words of that famous rooster "I say, I say that boy is about as sharp as a bowlin ball"
What do you mean that the KJV a bad translation? It proves your other stated AFF requirements 1-6 pretty well does it not?

I have been adressing the New Testament subject of hair from my very first post. You cannot just take one scripture on hair by itself. To see what the apostles were trying to say about womens hair you need to look at all hair scriptures in the bible.

For instance, even in the Old Testament law, a women was never forbidden from cutting her hair, and at the end of a Nazerite vow, a women would actually shave her head bald. Why would the apostles now pass a new law and say that a womens hair must be uncut? The only people passing that new law is the UPC, and it is heresy.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:09 AM
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What do you mean that the KJV a bad translation? It proves your other stated AFF requirements 1-6 pretty well does it not?

I have been adressing the New Testament subject of hair from my very first post. You cannot just take one scripture on hair by itself. To see what the apostles were trying to say about womens hair you need to look at all hair scriptures in the bible.

For instance, even in the Old Testament law, a women was never forbidden from cutting her hair, and at the end of a Nazerite vow, a women would actually shave her head bald. Why would the apostles now pass a new law and say that a womens hair must be uncut? The only people passing that new law is the UPC, and it is heresy.
No what you have been doing is taking what Peter said and inserting it into what Paul said. Paul said nothing about braided hair nor putting the hair on top of the head.

You are all over the map. It's incoherent
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No what you have been doing is taking what Peter said and inserting it into what Paul said. Paul said nothing about braided hair nor putting the hair on top of the head.

You are all over the map. It's incoherent
The man has NO point but thinks he does which is so absurd I don't have the energy to fuss with him.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:06 AM
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No what you have been doing is taking what Peter said and inserting it into what Paul said. Paul said nothing about braided hair nor putting the hair on top of the head.

You are all over the map. It's incoherent
You just don't get it, that is exactly what Paul was talking about in 1 Cor 11. The problem in the Corinthian church, and the other churches 1Pet 3:3, was that the womens head was uncovered. Pauls solution to the uncovered head was to advise women to shorn or even shave their heads, rather than wear there hair in the current uncovered manner. He would not have advised the women to cut their hair if it was a sinful act.

The better choice though is for a women to wear her hair long, covering her head. The covering of her head, by her hair, shows her submission to her husband. (Because of the angles). Him wearing his head uncovered with his hair shows their submission to GOD.
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You just don't get it, that is exactly what Paul was talking about in 1 Cor 11.
No YOU don't get it. Paul never mentioned braids or hair styles. That's the problem. You keep saying that is what Paul is talking about but instead of showing us where Paul said anything in 1Cor 11 about braids you instead go to another verse.
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No YOU don't get it. Paul never mentioned braids or hair styles. That's the problem. You keep saying that is what Paul is talking about but instead of showing us where Paul said anything in 1Cor 11 about braids you instead go to another verse.
Telling women that they should shorn or shave their heads in 1Cor11, is Paul talking about prefered hairstyles to the current uncovered head hairstyle.
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Paul said nothing about braided hair nor putting the hair on top of the head.
Paul talking about braided hair:

1TIM 2:9 RVS

9 also that women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly attire..........

1TIM 2:9 YLT

9 in like manner also the women, in becoming apparel, with modesty and sobriety to adorn themselves, not in braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or garments of great price,

Braid a natural covering/veil and see if it still covers your head? It is the same with your God given covering/hair.
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Paul talking about braided hair:

1TIM 2:9 RVS

9 also that women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly attire..........

1TIM 2:9 YLT

9 in like manner also the women, in becoming apparel, with modesty and sobriety to adorn themselves, not in braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or garments of great price,

Braid a natural covering/veil and see if it still covers your head? It is the same with your God given covering/hair.
You know very well we are discussing what Paul said in 1Cor 11....
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