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03-06-2013, 11:05 AM
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I don't agree with doing that. It appears from scripture it is something that just takes place. ( Matthew 18:10)
With people hanging and putting angel statues all over their houses, I wouldn't encourage this type of thing.
Our focus should always be on Jesus Christ alone, knowing the things He commands and directs.
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There were "angel" statues on the ark of the covenant.
Also, the tapestry of the tabernacle...
Images of angels don't bother me much.
However, throughout the NT we see angels manifesting, speaking, and being spoken to. I think we are not "spiritually in tune" as the ancients were with the spiritual to experience angelic realities.
However, I agree with you, focus should be on Jesus Christ. He alone deserves worship. However, respecting the realities of angels and their current order is biblical.
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03-06-2013, 11:11 AM
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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Originally Posted by Aquila
There were "angel" statues on the ark of the covenant.
Also, the tapestry of the tabernacle...
Images of angels don't bother me much.
However, throughout the NT we see angels manifesting, speaking, and being spoken to. I think we are not "spiritually in tune" as the ancients were with the spiritual to experience angelic realities.
However, I agree with you, focus should be on Jesus Christ. He alone deserves worship. However, respecting the realities of angels and their current order is biblical.
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Cherubim and Seraphim had wings. A bit different than angels who were seen as normal men. So, would there be a difference? It appears there is a difference.
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03-06-2013, 11:26 AM
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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Cherubim and Seraphim had wings. A bit different than angels who were seen as normal men. So, would there be a difference? It appears there is a difference.
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If angels have a "spiritual form" I am left with the impression that they are rather beastlike. Wings, feathers, talons, etc. However, seeing that they are highly intelligent and able to materialize... it may be that they choose a man "human form" when dealing with man. Imagine opening your eyes to something like this...
But, I picture their reality looking more like this (which might be just as frightening):
It would stand to reason that when dealing with man, they might "tone it down" a bit...
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03-06-2013, 11:30 AM
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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Originally Posted by Aquila
If angels have a "spiritual form" I am left with the impression that they are rather beastlike. Wings, feathers, talons, etc. However, seeing that they are highly intelligent and able to materialize... it may be that they choose a man "human form" when dealing with man. Imagine opening your eyes to something like this...
But, I picture their reality looking more like this (which might be just as frightening):
It would stand to reason that when dealing with man, they might "tone it down" a bit...

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Aquila,
I just want scripture. I don't care about drawings.
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03-06-2013, 11:39 AM
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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Aquila,
I just want scripture. I don't care about drawings.
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Here are a few verses to consider...
Isaiah 6:2
Seraphim were stationed above; each of them had six wings: with two they veiled their faces, with two they veiled their feet, and with two they hovered aloft.
Ezekiel 1:13
In among the living creatures something like burning coals of fire could be seen; they seemed like torches, moving to and fro among the living creatures. The fire gleamed, and from it came forth flashes of lightning.
Hebrews 1:7
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
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03-06-2013, 11:44 AM
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Here are a few verses to consider...
Isaiah 6:2
Seraphim were stationed above; each of them had six wings: with two they veiled their faces, with two they veiled their feet, and with two they hovered aloft.
Ezekiel 1:13
In among the living creatures something like burning coals of fire could be seen; they seemed like torches, moving to and fro among the living creatures. The fire gleamed, and from it came forth flashes of lightning.
Hebrews 1:7
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
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In Hebrew 1:7, I would take the imagery as devotion and zeal.
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03-06-2013, 11:50 AM
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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In Hebrew 1:7, I would take the imagery as devotion and zeal.
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I believe it can be taken that way. But with a "spirit"... I can see that zeal actually blazing throughout it's being. There go my notion that angels look more "fiery" in their basic spiritual form.
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