To tithe or not to tithe?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Many people find time to go and visit and pray with a shut in or sick in the hospital.

Sure they do but as I said not full time. They can't do that while working or taking care of other needs like their family

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Sure they do but as I said not full time. They can't do that while working or taking care of other needs like their family

If the people offered visitation so that it did not burden one man, they still have time to take care of family needs.

This is a fact Prax.

The trouble is, people don't want to do as Christ said we should do in Matthew 25. They rather pay someone to do this than to actively participate in this?

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

If the people offered visitation so that it did not burden one man, they still have time to take care of family needs.

This is a fact Prax.

The trouble is, people don't want to do as Christ said we should do in Matthew 25. They rather pay someone to do this than to actively participate in this?

It's called apathy.
They rather hang around the TV watching garbage from Hollywood.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

If the people offered visitation so that it did not burden one man, they still have time to take care of family needs.

This is a fact Prax.

The trouble is, people don't want to do as Christ said we should do in Matthew 25. They rather pay someone to do this than to actively participate in this?

The fact is if the people are working 8 to 12 hours a day they can't do visitation while they are working...right?

And some of those people have to go pick up kids from school or the baby sitter, buy groceries, make sure their kids are doing homework etc etc etc and so they can't be full time workers. That is a fact AreYouReady.

[Pilgrum]

Apostolic definition of "principle": The basis of doctrines that have no biblical backing or support.

[Praxeas]

Dictionary.com's definition of idiot

1.Informal. an utterly foolish or senseless person.
2.Psychology . (no longer in technical use; considered offensive) a person of the lowest order in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Dictionary.com's definition of idiot

1.Informal. an utterly foolish or senseless person.
2.Psychology . (no longer in technical use; considered offensive) a person of the lowest order in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25.

Just wondering who this post was meant for?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Just wondering who this post was meant for?

Anyone that wants to know what the definition of idiot is according to www.dictionary.com....did you want to know? (Im sure the answer was "no")

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The fact is if the people are working 8 to 12 hours a day they can't do visitation while they are working...right?

And some of those people have to go pick up kids from school or the baby sitter, buy groceries, make sure their kids are doing homework etc etc etc and so they can't be full time workers. That is a fact AreYouReady.

Did I say they were to go on visitation during working hours???? Or one person should take the time out every day to visit when there are many in the body???

Most people do have to do the things you posted above Prax.

All I am saying is that all the people should want to share in the duties of the ministry because we are all supposed to be ministers in the word and in deed. To delegate and pay one man to do all of the physical and spiritual work of the local church body is quite frankly....stupid. A congregation will work a poor man to death because they are paying him and get sloppy lazy on their own commitments to the Lord.

But since people want to do it that way...that is ok with me. I get tired of hearing all of the bellyaching about the lack of tithing and the disproportionate amount of work for one man when there are so many different ways the body of Christ can work together to labor in the Lord.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Did I say they were to go on visitation during working hours????

Did I say you said that??????

Or one person should take the time out every day to visit when there are many in the body???

Or that?

Most people do have to do the things you posted above Prax.

It does not change the FACTS I just presented. They can't do it full time because they are working 8-12 hours a day and have families to take care of and other family duties

All I am saying is that all the people should want to share in the duties of the ministry because we are all supposed to be ministers in the word and in deed. To delegate and pay one man to do all of the physical and spiritual work of the local church body is quite frankly....stupid. A congregation will work a poor man to death because they are paying him and get sloppy lazy on their own commitments to the Lord.

And all I am saying is, in the context of this discussion on full time Ministers and tithing, they can WANT to share in it all they want to but they can't do it full time unless they quit their jobs and or neglect their families and other duties

But since people want to do it that way...that is ok with me. I get tired of hearing all of the bellyaching about the lack of tithing and the disproportionate amount of work for one man when there are so many different ways the body of Christ can work together to labor in the Lord.

that really has nothing to do with what I have been discussing