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Old 03-08-2013, 07:00 AM
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Re: The Role of Faith in Justification by D. Segra

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Why is that people have to explain the sequence of understanding of this text over and over. Believeth HAS CONTEXT and responsibility to what is said and known. He that Believeth AND IS (POINTING DIRECTION) baptized shall be SAVED! he that believeth not (DENIES DIRECTION of MESSAGE AND RESPONSIBLITY) shall be condemned. If you don't BELIEVE how are you going to do what BELIEVETH is TO DO and be saved which is be BAPTIZED? DIRECTION by CONTEXT of what BELIEVETH IS. REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED is the same a BELIEVE and BE BAPTIZED! Both repent and believe give motion due to CONTEXT of the knowledge given in the message. Baptism is the RESULT OF THE MESSAGE and response of FAITH REALIZED!
Luke2447 What saves us Christ on the Cross and His split blood as a the ultimate and perfect sin offering or the water that is in the Baptismal pool filled from a garden hose?

If the Old Testament sacrifices were a type and shadow of Christ on the Cross it was always the blood of the sin offering that pushed the Sin forward.
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Re: The Role of Faith in Justification by D. Segra

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Luke2447 What saves us Christ on the Cross and His split blood as a the ultimate and perfect sin offering or the water that is in the Baptismal pool filled from a garden hose?
you are speaking partials truths while negating the whole of what God says. yo uare talking about the SOURCE of salvation that gives God the authority to bring about a NEW COVENANT! That however does not negate the reality of what GOD CALLS on us to believe which is CONTEXTUAL! Christ's actions which brought about a PROVISION for us to be DELIVERED/saved does not change the reality of what it TAKES to be actually delivered. What Christ did is the SOURCE of salvation but it takes OBEDIENCE to be saved to the context of what we have been given to BELIEVE.

Heb 5:9 He is the SOURCE of salvation to them that OBEY HIM! Faith has a contextual response to what is REVEALED to the individual. Mental assent DOES NOT SAVE! If Mental assent does not save then the only reality of is beyond just acknowledgment but the reality of such knowledge acted upon.

REPENT and BE BAPTIZED! He that BELIEVETH and is baptism SHALL BE SAVED! Context of salvation? BELIEVE AND BE BAPTIZED. context of condemnation = BELIEVETH NOT which NEGATES the message which is sequential to the CONTEXT of what involves belief.

I noticed you did not really deal with what I said before. You go off on a tanget.

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the Old Testament sacrifices were a type and shadow of Christ on the Cross it was always the blood of the sin offering that pushed the Sin forward.
yeah and what does that have to do with the reality of partaking in the DEATH of Christ. Romans clearly says that Baptism is partaking and united with him in his death/blood/sacrifice. It is when faith and response are realized at God's appointed time to partake in the atonement of Christ.
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