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Old 03-10-2013, 06:10 PM
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Re: To tithe or not to tithe?

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What is funny is Paul was not even appealing to tithes in 1 Cor 9. He was appealing to Levitical duties that were performed in the temple.

1 Cor 9 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

1 Cor 9 (ESV)
13 Do you not know that those who are employed in the temple service get their food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in the sacrificial offerings?

Leviticus 2
1 And when any will offer a meat offering unto the Lord, his offering shall be of fine flour; and he shall pour oil upon it, and put frankincense thereon:
2 And he shall bring it to Aaron's sons the priests: and he shall take thereout his handful of the flour thereof, and of the oil thereof, with all the frankincense thereof; and the priest shall burn the memorial of it upon the altar, to be an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the Lord:
3 And the remnant of the meat offering shall be Aaron's and his sons': it is a thing most holy of the offerings of the Lord made by fire.

The levites were to eat whatever was left of the sacrifices offered in the temple. And Paul was saying by the Lord's command "Support those that preach the gospel"

It does not even have to be money. Yes, money is probably one of the easiest ways to support, but it does not have to be money.
The basis or underlying principle of the Levitical system was the tithe. Paul was not telling the church to give their ministers the Levitical tithe, because the Levitical tithe went to the Levitical priesthood. What he did say was "so also", meaning "even so" or "in like manner".

And you're correct: a tithe does not have to be money. It is based on however one is increased. Every summer my wife grows a garden, and when she harvests it she literally pays a tenth of the harvest as the tithe. To the Galatians, Paul said those who are taught in the Word should "communicate" to the teacher "in all good things" (Gal 6:6). The writer of Hebrews, in the same context of submitting to church leadership, also speaks of "communicating" (Heb 13:16-17). So, no, it doesn't have to be limited to money.
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:52 PM
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Re: To tithe or not to tithe?

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The basis or underlying principle of the Levitical system was the tithe. Paul was not telling the church to give their ministers the Levitical tithe, because the Levitical tithe went to the Levitical priesthood. What he did say was "so also", meaning "even so" or "in like manner".
What I am saying is that tithe was different from the food which the Levites got from the temple. And Paul was appealing to the food from the temple not the tithes.

Also, the tithing principle you are advocating EXCLUDES anyone besides the Pastor.

However, Paul did not say only Pastors should be supported. He said the Lord ordained that THOSE WHO PREACH THE GOSPEL should live off the gospel.

So that would include missionaries too. Therefore, a person can give their "tithe" to missionaries. But I don't see you advocating for that.
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:04 PM
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What I am saying is that tithe was different from the food which the Levites got from the temple. And Paul was appealing to the food from the temple not the tithes.

Also, the tithing principle you are advocating EXCLUDES anyone besides the Pastor.

However, Paul did not say only Pastors should be supported. He said the Lord ordained that THOSE WHO PREACH THE GOSPEL should live off the gospel.

So that would include missionaries too. Therefore, a person can give their "tithe" to missionaries. But I don't see you advocating for that.
That's because we haven't gotten that far yet!

Once the principle of the tithe is acknowledged to exist under the New Covenant, THEN we can begin to discuss the structure of the ministry, and yes, "they" (not just pastors) who preach the gospel are due support. But the support comes THROUGH the local church.
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