She didn't say anything that isn't said over Apostolic pulpits on a weekly basis, Ferd.......with the exception of one item......in bold...
According to the Bay Area Reporter:[14]
"She said she was tired of Christians hiding behind the cross. 'When they stop Prop 8 and force priests at gunpoint to marry gays, it will be the downfall of civilization and Jesus will come back,' she said.Loud gasps were heard from the audience. Many fans walked out. 'I believe the Bible is the word of God,' Shocked continued....In response to audience reaction, Shocked offered a Spanish prayer that 'God loves you. God loves us. God loves us all everywhere.' Later, in English, she said: 'God bless us everyone.' Many fans questioned the singer out loud: 'What are you saying?' With a broad smile, Shocked said 'You are going to leave here and tell people "Michelle Shocked said God hates faggots."' That comment produced more gasps and more departures. Two-thirds of the audience had walked out by this point."
This could be taken a couple of different ways, but my interpretation is that she was concerned that people would associate her with the Phelps (no relation) bunch, but she was only speaking the same opinion that many fundamental Christians have.........
I have seen quotes that said:
"I live in fear that the world will be distroyed if gays are allowed to marry"
and
"you can go on Twitter and say M S says God hats F**s"
That is a bit different.
Then I read that for YEARS and YEARS she has refused to tell anyone what her own sexual orientation was.... that she has a huge lesbian following, then she shows up in San Fransisco and just gets down right insulting.
She didnt help the cause of Christ. in fact if anything, it was damaging.
It is one thing for people to properly talk about sin, in the setting of a church. It is entirely another to be insulting to people that are lost and in need of salvation.
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"I live in fear that the world will be distroyed if gays are allowed to marry"
and
"you can go on Twitter and say M S says God hats F**s"
That is a bit different.
Then I read that for YEARS and YEARS she has refused to tell anyone what her own sexual orientation was.... that she has a huge lesbian following, then she shows up in San Fransisco and just gets down right insulting.
She didnt help the cause of Christ. in fact if anything, it was damaging.
It is one thing for people to properly talk about sin, in the setting of a church. It is entirely another to be insulting to people that are lost and in need of salvation.
Agreed.
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"I live in fear that the world will be distroyed if gays are allowed to marry"
and
"you can go on Twitter and say M S says God hats F**s"
That is a bit different.
Then I read that for YEARS and YEARS she has refused to tell anyone what her own sexual orientation was.... that she has a huge lesbian following, then she shows up in San Fransisco and just gets down right insulting.
She didnt help the cause of Christ. in fact if anything, it was damaging.
It is one thing for people to properly talk about sin, in the setting of a church. It is entirely another to be insulting to people that are lost and in need of salvation.
I've always rather thought it was mocking and insulting to laugh while saying, in a church setting, "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." That isn't helpful for deliverance, IMO.
I've always rather thought it was mocking and insulting to laugh while saying, in a church setting, "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." That isn't helpful for deliverance, IMO.
Just a another pet peeve of mine. lol
Statements like this are akin to Epley's famous "Lost as two boys kissing" mantra.
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
I guess his quip here doesn't seem as alarming as it would in a church setting or does it?
I would agree, as long as it's kept here...........
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I thought you were going to disagree. lol I think we probably say a lot of things here we wouldn't in a church setting.
Absolutely. The problem is, this is a public forum, and anyone with internet access has access to it..........
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
"I live in fear that the world will be distroyed if gays are allowed to marry"
and
"you can go on Twitter and say M S says God hats F**s"
That is a bit different.
Then I read that for YEARS and YEARS she has refused to tell anyone what her own sexual orientation was.... that she has a huge lesbian following, then she shows up in San Fransisco and just gets down right insulting.
She didnt help the cause of Christ. in fact if anything, it was damaging.
It is one thing for people to properly talk about sin, in the setting of a church. It is entirely another to be insulting to people that are lost and in need of salvation.
Oh yea so as long as we can HIDE inside the Church walls its ok to preach against sin! That's typical. I am thankful at least ONCE someone with an entertainment background would at least say SOMETHING about the "lifestyle" being a sin.
Oh yea so as long as we can HIDE inside the Church walls its ok to preach against sin! That's typical. I am thankful at least ONCE someone with an entertainment background would at least say SOMETHING about the "lifestyle" being a sin.
No Michael, preaching against sin, standing against sin is something very simple that we as christians should do at all times.
HOWEVER, when you are a public figure who has a HUGE lesbian following, and you have refused for more than a decade to discuss your sexuality and have avoided answering the question "are you gay", then when you walk on stage in front of the people who have been paying you for YEARS, then you are not helping the Cause of Christ to come out and say things like
I fear gay marriage will cause the world to end.
being insulting is nowhere NEAR the same thing as taking a principled stand against sin.
Gay marriage is not a sin. It is not a sin, because it is IMPOSSIBLE for to people of the same sex to enter into a covanant relationship with God (which is what marriage is). The sin is two people of the same sex having sex.
So if ms whats her face with the silly name wants to preach against sin, then she needed to do that a very long time ago, before those gay people who have made her pretty wealthy, made her so wealthy....
just saying....
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