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Originally Posted by Aquila
The Father exists on the throne in theophany. The Son, the man Christ Jesus, is in a glorified human body... seated at the right hand of the Father's theophany. The Father, being God, is present both on the throne and in the man, Christ Jesus.
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If Jesus Christ is in a physical body far away from where we are here, what are the chances of Christ in us that is our only hope of glory being formed in us?
When Stephen took his last breath he beheld the heavens opened and Jesus at the right hand of God because Stephen was experiencing the new heavens and new earth having obtained the fullness of Christ given witness by the forgiveness of those who murdered him. However, Stephen had not gone anywhere as his body was still on earth the same as when Paul ascended onto the 3rd heaven his body did not go anywhere as his spirit and soul experienced the new heavens.
The same as in my testimony when I was declared dead and people were looking at my dead body at the same time the spirit/soul from within me experienced standing in judgment before the great white throne that is the "3rd heaven," yet physically I never went anywhere.
If the throne of heaven was an actual place you would not see unclean beast hanging around in heavenIn where nothing unclean can survive.
Also what about those Guardian Angels watching over us some of who are the spirits of those who have already died and gone to heaven (for lack of better words)? If they were a long ways from here how could they be our guardian angels here on earth?
Another thing to consider is when Jesus said he was in heaven while he was standing on earth, and so did the apostles essentially say the same thing with the words “our conversation is in heaven” that when translated defines their citizenship as being from heaven while they were ministering to people on earth.
Doug
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