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04-30-2013, 10:06 AM
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Re: Dkb tweets & fb statuses
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Originally Posted by bishoph
I obviously am NOT DKB.....(I'm much better looking.....lol) however my guess is that he is quoting the AG stats. According to the AG (derived from Christianity Today here: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/...ober/5.15.html which tells us that only half (50%) of the AG regular attendees claim to have received the Holy Spirit baptism; and another poll listed in Christianity Today here: anitytoday.com/ct/2006/octoberweb-only/140-53.0.html
Also the ever trusted Wickipedia...lol here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General...tes_of_America says that only 50% of their members claim the Holy ghost baptism, and it gives a direct quote from the AG stating: "Yet, the distinctive doctrine that once united us has, in some circles, become a point of contention. We lament the increasing rarity of the gifts of the Spirit in our worship setting. We wonder where, in our busy church schedules, will people have an opportunity to tarry at the altars for a transforming Pentecostal experience?"
So, while it would be nice to see his sources, I certainly do not believe that his numbers are too far off......if anything according to these articles I have "sourced" his numbers are exaggerated to the good side not the bad.
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Some of what he's been saying does have some truth, but here are some statements that he made that I've found to be completely off:
"Scholarship on modern Pentecostals #7: Rare to hear teaching on Christian disciplines such as prayer, tithing, church attendance"
"Scholarship on modern Pentecostals #6: Rare to hear teaching on how Christian living affects personal lifestyle choices"
"Scholarship on modern Pentecostals #4: Interest in supernatural has largely waned, even though culture is very interested"
"Scholarship on modern Pentecostals #3: Rare to hear pastoral teaching on baptism of Spirit or to witness tongues in congregation"
"Scholarship on modern Pentecostals #2: Supernatural experience are less like to happen in churches, especially Sun AM" This statement is almost funny.
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04-30-2013, 02:50 PM
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Re: Dkb tweets & fb statuses
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
So not a single jew was saved?
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No. How can a jew be saved during a non-existent revival?
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04-30-2013, 02:52 PM
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Re: Dkb tweets & fb statuses
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Originally Posted by n david
The Jews weren't in NE. That'd be too easy for people to verify. No, these Jews were in Cali, NY, and Israel. A private jet was involved. It was a fascinating lie.
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I thought the preacher that started the revival started it in NE and took it global... Well I guess a lie does get around the world faster than the truth.
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04-30-2013, 02:57 PM
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Re: Dkb tweets & fb statuses
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Originally Posted by bishoph
I obviously am NOT DKB.....(I'm much better looking.....lol) however my guess is that he is quoting the AG stats. According to the AG (derived from Christianity Today here: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/...ober/5.15.html which tells us that only half (50%) of the AG regular attendees claim to have received the Holy Spirit baptism; and another poll listed in Christianity Today here: anitytoday.com/ct/2006/octoberweb-only/140-53.0.html
Also the ever trusted Wickipedia...lol here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General...tes_of_America says that only 50% of their members claim the Holy ghost baptism, and it gives a direct quote from the AG stating: "Yet, the distinctive doctrine that once united us has, in some circles, become a point of contention. We lament the increasing rarity of the gifts of the Spirit in our worship setting. We wonder where, in our busy church schedules, will people have an opportunity to tarry at the altars for a transforming Pentecostal experience?"
So, while it would be nice to see his sources, I certainly do not believe that his numbers are too far off......if anything according to these articles I have "sourced" his numbers are exaggerated to the good side not the bad.
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His numbers not being too far off doesn't mean they are accurate in the least.
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04-30-2013, 03:15 PM
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Re: Dkb tweets & fb statuses
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Originally Posted by Farfel
Some of what he's been saying does have some truth, but here are some statements that he made that I've found to be completely off:
"Scholarship on modern Pentecostals #7: Rare to hear teaching on Christian disciplines such as prayer, tithing, church attendance"
"Scholarship on modern Pentecostals #6: Rare to hear teaching on how Christian living affects personal lifestyle choices"
"Scholarship on modern Pentecostals #4: Interest in supernatural has largely waned, even though culture is very interested"
"Scholarship on modern Pentecostals #3: Rare to hear pastoral teaching on baptism of Spirit or to witness tongues in congregation"
"Scholarship on modern Pentecostals #2: Supernatural experience are less like to happen in churches, especially Sun AM" This statement is almost funny.
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These are also some of the things that made me scratch my head.
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