Saved vs striving to be saved??

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

actually grace is simply favor which is given to us as a provision. It has nothing to do with having righteousness bestowed without proper response to God or gGod allowing or considering you in a position of FAITHFUL/RIGHTEOUS while IN unrepentant sin. God's justice has not changed concerned how people stand before him when it comes to covenant obligations. That response includes covenant requirements that you have and are responsible to do. Jesus is very clear on this about following him and giving up all.

Grace drives us to our knees in repentance of sin. Grace brought me out.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Grace drives us to our knees in repentance of sin. Grace brought me out.

favor drove you to your knees?

[larrylyates]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

favor drove you to your knees?

It absolutely will; out of shear joy and gratefulness to be free!

Romans 2:4
Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by larrylyates

It absolutely will; out of shear joy and gratefulness to be free!

Romans 2:4
Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

I agree with that aspect but that was not my point I was aiming at.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

I agree with that aspect but that was not my point I was aiming at.

Romans 2:4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Romans 2:4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?

I was being more specific while you are being broad. I agree with that. My point is how grace is used.